ledbetter act

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by martin, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

    Or perhaps women can negotiate a job for themselves?
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    I just said that, Gilligan.
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

    Not at all.

    You referenced discrimination, but it only becomes discrimination when said worker "ACCEPTS" the job at that pay, but then that isn't discrimination as much as it is stupidity.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    What if the worker was unaware at the time of hiring?
     
  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

    Unaware that the wage offered was lower?


    Then:

    A) Didn't do market research
    B) Is a dummy for the above
    C) Apparently didn't have an issue with the wage offered until they found out it was less than "other workers"
    D) Needs coaching in negotiating
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    COMPANIES DON'T RELEASE THIS INFORMATION

    DUUUH!

    ONE PARTY CANNOT NEGOTIATE FAIRLY WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THE OTHER HAS.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    What do you mean? You know how much you are willing to work for and you try to maximize. If you negotiate poorly, too bad. If someone else is as qualified and will work for less, then too bad.

    If women, or anyone, negotiate a salary, then why should they be able to sue later?

    Should baseball players be able to sue if they negotiate a contract and then another player with a better agent negotiates a better salary?
     
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  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

    So, you have know clue of your value in the work place? Surely this is not the well informed Red I know..


    I knew my market value and am paid as such.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Perhaps the negotiations were inequitable due to women not being informed that they were being offered less than male applicants.

    It depends. If their contract stipulated that they would receive the top pay, then hiring a guy at a higher pay would be a breach of contract. It's never black and white. These issues should be considered case by case.

    That is NOT the question at hand. They may not have a clue that they are valued less than men in the same office. This fact was withheld during the negotiations.
     
  10. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

    What prohibits someone from asking?
     

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