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vshouse · Nov 17, 2011

burlesontiger said: ↑

I think one of the most telling stats for the difference in the offense this year is in the red zone.

LSU is ranked 2nd (behind Stanford) in red zone offense:

46 Drives
45 Scores
35 TD (23 rushing 12 passing)
10 FG

I couldn't find last year's but I know there were definitely more FGs than TDs.
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Last year LSU was ranked # 27 in the red zone

cant find the rest

islstl · Nov 17, 2011

You guys are looking at a fairly meaningless stat.

Anybody can kick a FG inside 37 yards.

The real stat comparison is converting TDs in the redzone.

2010 - LSU 27 of 51, 53 % (96th nationally)
2011 - LSU 35 of 46, 76 % (6th nationally)

burlesontiger · Nov 17, 2011

islstl said: ↑

You guys are looking at a fairly meaningless stat.

Anybody can kick a FG inside 37 yards.

The real stat comparison is converting TDs in the redzone.

2010 - LSU 27 of 51, 53 % (96th nationally)
2011 - LSU 35 of 46, 76 % (6th nationally)
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Well that's actually what I was driving at, even though I couldn't find last year's stats. This year we have the ability to finish those drives in the end zone rather than settling - so those who say the LSU offense is average to below average simply can't or won't see reality.

onceanlsufan · Nov 17, 2011

islstl said: ↑

Actually referring to this:

http://forums.tigerfan.com/tigers-den/107024-difference-bama-lsus-defensive-ranking.html

Post #33

In talking about strength of offenses and trying to get it closer to an "apples to apples" discussion, we end up with the following statistical breakdown:

LSU
Yards Yielded Per Game......254.0
Opponents Offense............447.0
Differential........................43.2%

Points Yielded Per Game......12.5
Opponents Scoring.............37.0
Differential........................66.2%

Alabama
Yards Yielded Per Game......191.3
Opponents Offense............349.5
Differential........................45.3%

Points Yielded Per Game........7.0
Opponents Scoring.............27.2
Differential........................74.3%

The numbers are very similar with Alabama a slight edge in both yards per game and points per game differential indicators.
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oK ... yeah .. I remember that post now.

I went about it a different way, but came up with a similar conclusion.

I calculated the opponents score compared to what they were expected to score against their other opponents, and came up with a percentage, then averaged the percentages. The offenses Bama faced on average scored 70% of what they should have against other opponents ... the offenses LSU faced averaged 121% of what they should have scored against other opponents.

I then adjusted Bama's "points against" number by the difference to put it as you say, and apples to apples comparison.

onceanlsufan · Nov 17, 2011

islstl said: ↑

You guys are looking at a fairly meaningless stat.

Anybody can kick a FG inside 37 yards.

The real stat comparison is converting TDs in the redzone.

2010 - LSU 27 of 51, 53 % (96th nationally)
2011 - LSU 35 of 46, 76 % (6th nationally)
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Yet another testimony to illustrate how LSU DOES have an offense, and they ain't half bad.

islstl · Nov 17, 2011

onceanlsufan said: ↑

Yet another testimony to illustrate how LSU DOES have an offense, and they ain't half bad.
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We have maybe the most efficient offense in all of college football.

msully · Nov 17, 2011

Not anyone ,

burlesontiger said: ↑

Well that's actually what I was driving at, even though I couldn't find last year's stats. This year we have the ability to finish those drives in the end zone rather than settling - so those who say the LSU offense is average to below average simply can't or won't see reality.
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Bama can't Kick a FG , not this season we know that . But I bet you they are looking for someone male or female that can kick a FG . Oh ,I bet this lady has had a call from Saban already , $250,000.00 for QB LOL what is a FG Kicker worth in Sabanville today ?? Tide Fans this is for you , for not taking LSU posts . [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmQylfvQ-KY]kicker queen - YouTube[/ame]

ramahsghost · Nov 18, 2011

onceanlsufan said: ↑

I keep hearing these bafoons on ESPN, and elsewhere talking about how LSU has this awsome Defense, but our offense is so-so.

This is a complete crock of B.S.

The problem is in how they approach it. They approach everything with raw numbers. Thus, they compare total points allowed and total points for between teams, total yards rushing, total yards passing, etc. This is a false comparison. The real comparison should be, How many points does a team score compared to what the opponent normally allows, and how many points does a team allow compared to what a team normally would score. How many yards rushing do they allow compared to what a team normall rushes, etc.

This is the basis for how I've come dang close to predicting every game since Kentucky. Even the Bama Game, the approach predicted a tie, with a .04 advantage to LSU. [although, I did have to go deeper than one level of opponents on that one, which makes it even more concise]. It was tied in regulation, we won in OT.

LSU is balanced as it gets.

- LSU only allows 60% of what a team would normally score. [40% less]
- LSU scores 140-150% of what teams normally would allow. [40% more]

Let's see.. Bama ... [6.8+[6.8*.4]] = 9.52 points. Look familiar?? Granted our Defense and Special teams had a spectacular outing that night, and held Bama to just 15% of what they normally would score.

Thus, teams on average score 40% less points on us, but we score 40% more points on them. That's pretty dang balanced in my book.

AR doesn't stand a chance. They allow 100% of what a team normally scores, but only score 160% of what a team allows.

160% of 11 is 17 points.
100% of 36 is 36 points. ... AR loses.

:geaux:
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Blinded by the YARDS PER GAME MONKEY

2007 ... LSU had 430+ ypg
2011 ... Nowhere close!