NCAA Football Graduation Rates

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  1. DRC

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    We are among the lowest in the SEC and NCAA in graduation rates at 42%. Auburn and Tennessee are almost 60% for their football programs.

    Not really sure why we would rank so low. Anyone have insight into this?

    I would like to see us have success on the field AND in the classroom. Maybe thats asking too much but I dont like to be behind the Chickens and Volunqueers in anything. :wink:
     
  2. TexasTigers

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    Keep in mind transfers and early defections to the pros count as negatives. So Both Clayton and Hill for example counted as not graduating....
     
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    I didnt know that and I do wonder sometimes about these kinds of stats but it is a little alarming.

    Lets keep in mind that the HUGE majority of these guys we cheer for week in and week out who lay it on the line for LSU will not be playing on Sunday's. Its important in my mind that LSU prepare them for the real world and that means graduating more players than we currently are.

    Its kind of embarrassing to be 87th in the country when school like Auburn and Tennessee seem to be doing a much better job.
     
  4. TigerWins

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    Did that report indicate the time period? It seems as though I saw those same numbers last year.

    Anyway, I'd be willing to bet those numbers for LSU are way up compared to the past 20 years or so. Until Saban arrived, we've done a very poor job of putting the student in student-athlete!

    Is this for all sports?
     
  5. TigersTalons

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    AU takes great pride in the graduation rate you sound like you do too.

    i know you guys hate tubby but thats one of the reasons AU fans love him so.

    personally i think him getting CW and RB to stay was his best recruiuting job last yr. but if he was gone so were they.
     
  6. DDTigerFan

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    I imagine that those stats are old and therefore shouldn't really apply to Saban's ability. You will see Saban's grad. rates on their way up in the next few years when we start seeing HIS recruiting classes graduate, especially with the help of the Cox Center now.
     
  7. TwistedTiger

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    Seems like the last time graduation rates were posted the NCAA stats were so behind that it didn't include the last 3 or 4 years yet. If so then what you are seeing is Dinardo's graduation rate which should be damn near zero. Look for the numbers to improve greatly with Saban at the helm.
     
  8. BB

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    I know that this will not go over well, but I believe in giving credit where credit is due - Tulane is ranked #7 in America in football graduation rate according to WWL Radio. Great job in the classroom, weenies.

    Coach Saban will read this report as he likely does every year and the effort is being made - this I feel certain about...
     
  9. TexasTigers

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    Well although I am sure Saban is going to improve our numbers, I was just reading the Dallas Morning News.

    The Long Horns - Football 27% Basketball 0%
    OU - 43% Basketball - 0%
    A&M - Football 50% Basketball 0%

    UT has 27% graduation rate, thats sad....
     
  10. BB

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    I can't locate a link to the graduation rates released today, but here is an interesting story from December:

    Finally, a clear No. 1
    USC best of three title contenders in graduation rates
    Posted: Monday December 22, 2003

    ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- When it comes to graduation rates, Southern California is the clear-cut winner over LSU and Oklahoma.

    In a study of graduation rates of the 56 bowl teams released Monday, USC easily beat out the other two national title contenders.

    The Trojans graduated 61 percent of their football players in the years studied, compared to 40 percent for LSU and 33 percent for Oklahoma. :thumb:

    The numbers are an average for the freshman classes that entered school from 1993-94 to 1996-97. Students are given six years to graduate, but athletes who transfer -- even if they are in good academic standing -- count against a school. :dis:

    "If there were a Top 10 ranking for graduation rates among bowl teams, Northwestern and Boston College would have played for the national championship," said Richard Lapchick, who authored the study for The Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport at the University of Central Florida.

    Northwestern had an 83 percent graduation rate, followed by Boston College (79), Virginia (76), Tulsa (66) and Oregon (64).

    The Trojans had the highest rate for any school in a BCS bowl game, while Oklahoma had the lowest. The rate for the Sooners are for classes that entered school before Bob Stoops became coach in 1999.

    Arkansas and Fresno State were tied for the lowest rate at 26 percent. :dis:

    Navy is the only bowl school that does not release graduation rates.

    The study also looked at minority hiring practices at bowl schools. In the leadership positions of head coach, coordinators, school president, athletic director and faculty athletic representative, 94 percent of positions were held by whites. White women held 6 percent of those jobs.

    UCLA's Karl Dorrell is the only minority head coach for a bowl team. There were four minority coaches among the 117 Division I-A schools this season.

    There were also only eight minority coordinators, including USC offensive coordinator Norm Chow. The Trojans also had one of three black athletic directors in Mike Garrett.

    "It is astonishing that only 13 of the 56 bowl schools employ any person of color in these key decision-making positions," Lapchick said. "It is no wonder why there is only one African-American head coach in a bowl game."
     

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