Agreed. If Sheppard is as good as predicted, I can't imagine him riding the bench to wait for a shot at playing his senior season. Same goes for Lee. He wouldn't want to ride the bench either if unseated. Wouldn't blame him.

Ignore what? You maintain that Lee's interceptions are a bigger problem than the defense. Our offense is #2 in the Sec. Our defense is in the cellar.

Now you assume my state of mind. I took your joke(like who knew that except you?), seriously. How is that personal? You fail to show that again and this is ridiculous. You pull this often, so further comment from me is unnecessary.

To me? You do not find Lee's performance acceptable with the exception of his interceptions? Really? Was Flynn's performance acceptable last year? Why don't you try comparing those stats?

Flynn in his championship year(5th year senior, but first year starting), had 56.3% completions, with 6.71 yards/catch, and a 125.76 Qb rating.

JR in his last year(first year starting), had 50.7% completions, 7.31 yards/catch, and a 127.19 QB rating.

Lee(first year as a starter), has 58% completions, 7.9 yards/catch, and a 134.8 QB rating.

Again, I say the only complaint you have is his interceptions(which are huge), but you claim his other numbers are unacceptable. Seeing him stacked up against our last two successful QB's, makes that clearly untenable. You can ignore the numbers but they do not lie. Again, the only number sub par is his interceptions.

I have said repeatedly that is unacceptable so there is someone lying here, and it's not me.

There are two significant differences here. Firstly, Lee played not one down last year. Not one. Every single player on our defense has extensive experience on either last year's defense or special teams. The lone exception is Peterson.

Secondly, the offense is at the top of the SEC, and Lee's numbers are quite good, with the exception of his interceptions. The defense is at the bottom in every category. Take your pick and address it. You can't, because it cannot be explained away.

Those LBs had playing time last year and have gotten worse with each game. The Cbs have actually played well, and I have said so repeatedly. They have been burned a few times but I give them passes for youth. I do not give a second year starting safety and junior safety that subbed flawlessly in the NCG for Steltz, a pass on repeated blown coverages. He isn't just getting beaten, he is forgetting the name of his position completely - safety. The DLine has taken a step back from last year, and our turnovers forced are dead last.

Those stats are indefensible. Pun intended...

That His freshman year stats. not last year.

J. Russell 13-13 167.0 232-342-8 67.8 3129 28 58 240.7

JaMarcus Russel 12-12 136.56 311-188-9 60.5 2443 15 50 203.6


JaMarcus Russel 11 127.19 144-73-4 50.7 1053 9 42 95.7

Sorry, that was a typo on my part. In parenthesis, I did list "his first year starting", and a first starting year comparison is what I was going for.

No sweat. It did feel good to be the one correcting an error instead of the one making one. :grin:

Just follow my posts. You could make a career out of it! :rofl:

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Dammit!:cuss::cuss:

You assume that I am arguing with you about the defense. I am not saying our defense is great at all. Thats the difference here, you are defending Lee. Flynn was the ultimate game manager imo. His interceptions didnt hurt as much as Lee. Because they are turning Lees' picks into touchdowns. Nothing hurts a game more than that. If I am so wrong about the guy, why is Les Miles considering Jefferson?

On the personal thing, you still havent showed an example of me "pulling this off often", but you are running from it. So its a baseless accusation. Its not my problem youdidnt get the joke.

You know what, you win, you are right about Lee and I'm wrong. You are right about everything. end of debate.

Why? Because Hatch has a broken leg and can't play. Jefferson will not replace Lee as a starter, and nothing Miles has said in anyway showed a lack of confidence in Lee. Lee will start, and Lee will improve the one area(interceptions) that is a problem now. Fact remains that the rest of his stats are fine, and you don't acknowledge this. Or perhaps now you just insist that the interceptions override everything else. Don't know. Don't care. The numbers don't lie. Lee has talent and has good performance outside of his interceptions.

You won't talk about the defense because they are indefensible. I am talking about both in order to direct the majority of the blame for our losses and bad performance in victory as well, exactly where it belongs. On the back of the defense. Again, their numbers are not in dispute. They are in the cellar. So of course the conclusion is, replace the RSF QB.

You didn't ask for it and I don't feel like researching. Towards what point? You have still failed to illustrate how I took anything personal in the first place, and I did ask for that. Talk about a baseless accusation. And lest we forget, you went there first. Just follow the thread and I will let other posters decide. If you think you are right, than you are unlikely to be convinced. As I said, further comments hold little purpose.

It is when you make unfounded accusations and you are the only one that gets the joke. Here is a hint for you. If the person you are joking with doesn't get it, either it's not funny, or you might want to rethink your delivery. Can be hard to deliver some things with the written word, but considering I was an English/History major, I don't feel the disconnect is with me. I am sure you feel different. I need no apologies but will not let such statements go unchallenged. So be it.

Weak and unnecessary. I merely defend my position well.