His impeachment "acquittals" were by Republicans who have no shame, not because he didn't do the deeds, you laughable idiot.

And the fact that he's "presumed innocent" until proven guilty doesn't mean he's actually innocent of the crimes, you laughable idiot.

So, what point are you trying to make (not that it would make much sense)?

yes,. you do always say this. its never that trump is innocent, its that for some reason or other, every single time, he never found guilty. mueller, impeachments, etc, somehow they never get him.

but the walls are closing in this time for sure. your record on this is somewhere around zero for 700

Of course he's not innocent. No honest person would think so. And only a dishonest person would say so.

And what do you mean by "never get him"? No less than SEVENTY ONE STANDING COUNTS of criminal indictment proves you're a liar.

Like the NY indictment?

Keep us posted.

“Alexia, remind me in four years.”

nah, indictments are just accusations. he has been accused before, it never comes to anything.

dems are gonna fuck around get this orange clown elected again. then he will appoint all sorts of other clowns. we coulda had a smart person like ramaswamy, who will take the positives of trumpism (american-first isolationism for example) and move forward. but instead you dems and your TDS are gonna put this fat crank in the white house again.

NOPE

OBEY

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald...ice-department-81591082?mod=opinion_lead_pos1
from the wsj:


The indictment levels 37 charges against Mr. Trump that are related to his handling of classified documents, including at his Mar-a-Lago club, since he left the White House. Thirty-one of the counts are for violating the ancient and seldom-enforced Espionage Act for the “willful retention of national defense information.

But it’s striking, and legally notable, that the indictment never mentions the Presidential Records Act (PRA) that allows a President access to documents, both classified and unclassified, once he leaves office. It allows for good-faith negotiation with the National Archives. Yet the indictment assumes that Mr. Trump had no right to take any classified documents.
This doesn’t fit the spirit or letter of the PRA, which was written by Congress to recognize that such documents had previously been the property of former Presidents. If the Espionage Act means Presidents can’t retain any classified documents, then the PRA is all but meaningless. This will be part of Mr. Trump’s defense.

The other counts are related to failing to turn over the documents or obstructing the attempts by the Justice Department and FBI to obtain them. One allegation is that during a meeting with a writer and three others, none of whom held security clearances, Mr. Trump “showed and described a ‘plan of attack’” from the Defense Department. “As president I could have declassified it,” he said on audio tape. “Now I can’t, you know, but this is still a secret.”

The feds also say Mr. Trump tried to cover up his classified stash by “suggesting that his attorney hide or destroy documents,” as well as by telling an aide to move boxes to conceal them from his lawyer and the

As usual, Mr. Trump is his own worst enemy. “This would have gone nowhere,” former Attorney General Bill Barr told CBS recently, “had the President just returned the documents. But he jerked them around for a year and a half.”

That being said, if prosecutors think that this will absolve them of the political implications of their decision to charge Mr. Trump, they fail to understand what they’ve unleashed.

In the court of public opinion, the first question will be about two standards of justice. Mr. Biden had old classified files stored in his Delaware garage next to his sports car. When that news came out, he didn’t sound too apologetic. “My Corvette’s in a locked garage, OK? So it’s not like they’re sitting out on the street,” Mr. Biden said. AG Garland appointed another special counsel, Robert Hur, to investigate, but Justice isn’t going to indict Mr. Biden.

As for willful, how about the basement email server that Hillary Clinton used as Secretary of State? FBI director James Comey said in 2016 that she and her colleagues “were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.” According to him, 113 emails included information that was classified when it was sent or received. Eight were Top Secret. About 2,000 others were later “upclassified” to Confidential. This was the statement Mr. Comey ended by declaring Mrs. Clinton free and clear, since “no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”

This is the inescapable political context of this week’s indictment. The special counsel could have finished his investigation with a report detailing the extent of Mr. Trump’s recklessness and explained what secrets it could have exposed. Instead the Justice Department has taken a perilous path.

The charges are a destructive intervention into the 2024 election, and the potential trial will hang over the race. They also make it more likely that the election will be a referendum on Mr. Trump, rather than on Mr. Biden’s economy and agenda or a GOP alternative. This may be exactly what Democrats intend with their charges.

A worthless hack article by a right wing autocratic rag.

Here allow me to break it down for you:

The Espionage Act is "seldom enforced" because it's seldom broken, DUH,and never as brazenly as donald trump did so. But even so, it was enforced just three weeks ago against a lesser individual in a government position, to the tune of three years in prison. Not enforcing it against trump would have meant preferential treatment, which would be a bullshit breach of the principle that no person in this country is above the law.

The indictment doesn't mention the Presidential Records Act because nothing in it exonerates trump nor is it the basis for prosecution. DUH. Furthermore, the Presidential Records Act was a reaction to Richard Nixon attempting to destroy government records and its intent is to RESTRICT certain rec0rds from post-presidency hands, not to excuse everything in an ex-President's possession, as your hack author would have you believe. And aside from that, yes, the PRA does allow "good faith negotiations" with National Archives, but trump didn't engage in good faith even after being afforded every opportunity to do so. Instead, he LIED AND LIED about what he had, and tried to conceal things even further.

The "willful basement email server" Clinton opted for was not illegal, as your hack author would have you believe. In fact, it was RECOMMENDED by her predecessor from Bush's Republican administration, Colin Powell, as an efficient and safe way to conduct state affairs. As for classified information within emails on that server, even James Comey admitted that none of those emails were properly labeled as "classified", which means the documents themselves were not, even if they might have contained some random bits of classified information. And, at the very worse, being "careless" with a few unclassified emails does not rise to the level of criminality, where the statutes require intent. And as Comey stated, no reasonable person would conclude that Clinton intentionally tried to hoard classified information on her server. That's a far cry from what trump has done, wherein he PERSONALLY directed which classified documents to box up and move to his private residence and then lied over and over again about having them and refused to hand them back. Your hack author's whataboutism will not fly in a court of law.

And is he kidding? The DOJ was supposed to reveal what specific defense secrets trump took? SERIOUSLY? Just as the DOJ states in the indictment, those secrets are a national security risk to this country and to this country's military and intelligence-gathering personnel. Fuck that hack for wanting to endanger me just because a Republican was indicted.

"Destructive intervention" into the 2024 presidential race? Again, is he kidding? Sure, it's destructive to trump's candidacy, but allowing trump to get away scot-free with traitorous activities would unleash a monstrous precedent upon this country, wherein every ex-president thinks he's entitled to own and peddle our country's secrets. Fuck your absurd hack.

the difference of course is that trump was president with broad and basically universal powers of declassification.


also, for a precedent, clinton man sandy berger stole classified documents, stuffed them in his socks and ran out with them, and his punishment was basically nothing, no jail, no felony.

For the umpteenth time, you spectacularly dishonest idiot, the matter of classification is not at play in the trump indictment. Violations of the Espionage Act don't require that a document be classified, so your defense of trump's crime is spectacularly stupid.

That's not at all a precedent to these trump crimes, you spectacularly dishonest idiot. Berger was found to have violated 18 USC 1924, not the Espionage Act under which trump is being charged. Also, Berger didn't defy a subpoena and obstruct justice over and over as has trump, not to mention that the sheer volume and sensitivity of what Berger took to what is very petty compared to trump's thefts, you spectacularly dishonest idiot.