About ND not deserving a BCS Bowl game

Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by bitter ND, Jan 5, 2007.

  1. bitter ND

    bitter ND Founding Member

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    I don't understand that argument. The BCS was implemented so that the number one team and the number two team in the nation would play each other, and nothing more. For the rest of the BCS Bowl games, it has nothing to do with matching up the highest ranked teams. If it was really about that, there wouldn't be that rule that limited only the two top teams from a conference playing in BCS bowl games. Instead, for the different BCS Bowl committees, when they make their selections who to invite, its all about money and viewership. And, with ND's national following, ND will always get selected for BCS bowl games if its ranked high enough. As long as ND only loses two to three games, ND will be in. If you have a problem with that, then tear down the BCS bowl system. Don't blame ND for something your school's adminstration voted for.

    And, how is this really any different from what LSU tried to do this year with the Rose Bowl. Before UCLA upset its rival, USC, SC looked like it was going to play for a NC against Ohio State and that there was going to be an opening for the Rose Bowl. LSU tried to buy its way in, promising to buy a large number of seats, if the Rose Bowl selected LSU. How is that any different from a BCS bowl game selecting ND because it knows ND will bring the fans and TV viewership?
     
  2. Crip*TEAM KATT

    Crip*TEAM KATT As Wild As We Wanna Be

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    That ND intellect really shining through on this one.

    Ok DESERVING and Being INVITED are two different things. Because you are ND people ASSUME that you put a DECENT team on the field and that your fan base travels well. Well not so much that your fans travel well, more so that CATHOLICS around the country believe they will burn in hell for not pulling for ND.

    NOW no one can blame your team for ACCEPTING their INVITATION to a BCS game, no one in their right mind would turn that down.

    Ok now for the nasty part...

    Your team DOES NOT DESERVE to be on the same field with the teams that play in the BCS games. YOUR TEAM would be better suited for the INDEPENDENCE BOWL...oh wait we beat y'all there too...sorry my fault.

    YOUR TEAM would be better suited for the MUSIC CITY BOWL, that way you have at least a 60/40 shot at WINNING A BOWL GAME!

    Now do we understand the difference between DESERVING and ACCEPTING?
     
  3. bitter ND

    bitter ND Founding Member

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    You still haven't explained why it was acceptable for LSU to try to influence the selection process by promising to buy a certain number of seats if it was selected for the Rose Bowl, but why it was wrong for BCS bowls to take those same considerations into factor when they select ND.
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    no one did anything "wrong" except college football for continuing to use the current system.

    of course notre dame should try to play in a bcs game and make as much money as possible. they will be humiliated, but thats up to them.

    by the way, what lsu did with the rose is different, because unlike ND, LSU actually deserved to play in a BCS game.

    ND is exploiting a flawed system by leveraging their huge fanbase and viewership into games they can't win. we agree, there is more to bowl selection that just picking the best teams, and notre dame exploits that.

    i think the best thing for the game would be to go with a playoff system, because i think it would make so much money they wouldnt have to favor ratings-bringing teams like notre dame. they could actually have competitive games instead of massacres.

    i am not blaming notre dame. i am just saying they are terrible, and you are wasting your time defending them for their "standards".

    the only point to be made here is that notre dame is an overrated sack of ass that makes bcs games because they are propped up by a huge fanbase army of catholic lunatics around the country.

    like palindromes?

    41-14
     
  5. goldengirlfan

    goldengirlfan simple man

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    I have no problem with Notre Dame being placed in a BCS bowl every year. Were they to ever win one, I'd probably change my mind.
     
  6. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    Notre Dame's yearly problem is that they are usually overranked. THis puts them in a bowl game that is above their teams talent level, thus putting them in a position to lose. Thats why they have lost 9 bowl games in a row.
     
  7. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    :rofl: :rofl: Exactly. It's the teams that end up playing in non-BCS games that should be upset with a second tier school getting into a BCS game on the merits of beating our military and Penn State.
     
  8. Deceks7

    Deceks7 Founding Member

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    A Bowl game that has nothing to do about merit? What a great idea. ND could play in the Nielsen Media Research Bowl each year and we could just forget about including them in the Bowl Championship Series. Do you think ND is entitled to games they didn't earn? That is just arrogant and wrong.

    LSU deserved to be in a BCS game, ND didn't. This was just trying to position LSU into one of the available slots. Bet you wished LSU had gone to the Rose and you could have played Boise State. Wait, that would have been even more embarrassing than that the debacle which played out in the Sugar Bowl. Boise State deserved to be in one of the games.
     
  9. TigerSnarl

    TigerSnarl Air Conditioned Gypsy

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    What a simple world you must live in if you believe the BCS had only one simple objective. Here's a news flash, the BCS is a business arrangement with the objective of making money. While I was not personally involved in the negotiations, I am certain that the fathers of the BCS had a number of goals including protecting the integrity of their cash cow product.
     
  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Notre Dame has been stroked by the media for so long now that it's own fans cannot see the forest for the trees. Listen up, Bitter: Your team sucks. I can see how you refuse to believe this when the sunshine being pumped up your a$$ is never disconnected. This Weis BS started last season in the 2nd game when ND beat an overrated Michigan team (that finished the season 7-5). Despite the fact that they got raped in the Fiesta Bowl by Ohio State, the media refused to believe that Notre Dame was not "BACK". Back from where? The Irish have not been (competitively) in the National title hunt in 15 years. The media (and the BCS), though, refuses to give up. Examples?

    1. Pre-season #2 in the nation despite being totally exposed by Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl.
    2. Season long hype about "Quinn for Heisman" when, in fact, he is a better than average college QB, no better than the Boise State guy or JD Booty or a hundred other QBs and certainly far less deserving than Brennan at Hawaii, JR at LSU and maybe 25 others.
    3. Managing a winning record against the military and slam dunking it's way into the Sugar Bowl despite being a whisker away from being a 5 loss team and having beat no team that was ranked at the end of the season.
    4. Constant hype about how Weis is a football genius with nothing to back it up except a Super Bowl ring placed there by Belicheck and Brady.
    5. A TV contract with NBC that shows home games watched only by Notre Dame fans while others are tuned to ABC, CBS and Fox to see meaningful games
    6. A BCS agreement that guarantees ND $1Million even if they don't make a BCS game.

    Take your sour grapes elsewhere BitterND. You are whining to the wrong crowd. Notre Dame's stock is falling rapidly because people are finally starting to realize that the "Irish Mystique" is a mirage..an illusion, created by the media and the actual football team has done nothing to back it up.

    See ya, hoss...wouldn't want to be ya.
     

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