Article- Hollywood 'Morons'

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LSUBayouBengals, Mar 26, 2003.

  1. Today's quote from the Left Coast: "George W Bush is like a bad comic
    working the crowd, a moron, if you'll pardon the expression." Martin Sheen

    Instead of making a comment on the above quote, I ask you to take about 3
    minutes and read the following article:

    Who's Smarter? by Cindy Osborne

    The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming
    about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the
    President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who
    will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid" ,
    "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in
    Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.
    So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's
    look at the biographies of these leaders, and then at the celebrities who
    are castigating them:

    President George W. Bush:
    Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University
    and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the
    Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in
    Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected
    Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic
    re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to
    consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the
    vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent
    of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of
    women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican
    other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial
    candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El
    Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about
    his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you
    might want to go to: The AFU & Urban Legends Archive and see
    the truth.)

    Vice President Dick Cheney:
    Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both
    in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science
    Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary
    duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign
    leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our
    homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of
    the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet
    with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the
    Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has
    seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men
    and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are
    doing for the United States of America.

    Secretary of State Colin Powell:
    Educated in the New York City public
    schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he
    earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY
    and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in
    June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business
    Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is
    the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations.
    Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of
    Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the
    Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy
    Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have
    been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and
    colleges across the country. (Note: He retired as Four Star General in the
    United States Army)

    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld:
    Attended Princeton University on
    Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval
    aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59;
    U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director
    of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living
    Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential
    Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House
    Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of
    Defense, 1975-77.

    Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge:
    Raised in a working class family
    in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard,
    graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School
    of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry
    staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After
    returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private
    practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was
    elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat
    veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six

    National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice:
    Earned her Bachelor's Degree in
    Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of
    Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and
    her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the
    University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of
    Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in
    Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the
    University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's
    Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are
    also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of
    Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse
    College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of
    Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for
    International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute
    for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover
    Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed
    (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin,
    and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984).
    She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign
    and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the
    U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992
    and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the
    period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she
    served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of
    Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a
    Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986,
    while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations,
    she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of
    Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender --
    Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of
    directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the
    William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the
    International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony
    Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New
    Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and
    East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls
    Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed
    such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the
    Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand
    Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the
    Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San
    Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she resides in
    Washington, D.C.

    So who are these celebrities? What is their education?
    What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security?
    While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I
    think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our
    leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and

    Barbra Streisand : Completed high school Career: Singing and acting
    Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting
    Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting
    Jessica Lange: Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting
    Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal. Career:
    Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting
    Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting
    Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in
    Washington, D.C. Career: Acting
    Ed Asner: Completed High school. Career: Acting
    George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting
    Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie
    Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting
    Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting
    Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting
    Janeane Garofelo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne
    Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting

    While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should
    also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even
    hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to
    information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the
    threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting
    governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI,
    Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies
    around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of
    the threats because we watch CNN!!
    We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.

    These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding
    groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country.
    They only have a deep seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature,
    and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest conservative views
    and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The
    silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a
    pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian
    Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic
    out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were
    ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was
    heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its
    own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed by freedom-hating terrorists,
    while going about their routine lives, they suddenly want to hold rallies
    against war?! Why the change!? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican
    sits in the White House.

    Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the
    "Hollywood group" aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE,
    FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the
    manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world
    peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence
    that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining
    nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They
    believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass
    destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will
    eventually be used against us in our own cities.

    So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that
    since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also
    determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions
    concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation
    when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough
    friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking
    for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we
    are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma
    gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is
    controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American
    people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the
    average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give
    him clout?

    The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of
    their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and
    divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare
    they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more
    bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their
    views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond
    memories of an old television sitcom!

    It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves
    about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the
    freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace
    in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism
    striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains
    strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware
    of the severe consequences that will befall them.

    Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and
    join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real.
    We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe
    by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength
    and determination that this country is known for, and defeated the Nazi
    regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from
    unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped
    them with action and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn
    around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the
    strong belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.
  2. tiger777

    tiger777 Founding Member

    Oct 23, 2001
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    great article sums up my views real well.
  3. Bestbank Tiger

    Bestbank Tiger Founding Member

    Oct 18, 2002
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    Hmmmm...Cheney sure managed to stay in academia at a convenient time.

    But I do respect Powell and Rice.
  4. TigahTrax

    TigahTrax Freshman

    Feb 19, 2003
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    Nice job. I think this article ought to be required reading. It really frosts me that these dim bulbs get so much air time for their silly and sometimes borderline traitorous partisan posturing.

    Thinking people can see through their fascades and big talk, but it's nice to have some actual evidence of their lack of depth, in contrast to those who are in positions of true leadership in our nation.

    And in my opinion also, for them to take advantage of their celebrity status is a form of demagoguery, and an abuse of true freedom of speech. The rest of us regular schmucks don't get to stand in front of banks of microphones and adoring cameras to rebut their foolish rantings.
  5. Ellis Hugh

    Ellis Hugh Space Wrangler

    Aug 9, 2001
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    Man, just reading Condi's bio makes my brain hurt.:confused:
  6. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

    Feb 20, 2003
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    I do agree the liberals in CA should shit up, but to say George Bush is intelligent is another thing all together. He may be the dumbest man to hold any political office ever.
    Also I know alot of the biggest supporters of this war are Catholic. To all who fall in that category I strongly encourage you to open the Cathechism and read the Just War doctrine
  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

    Oct 21, 2002
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    What an incredibly ignorant comment.
  8. Bestbank Tiger

    Bestbank Tiger Founding Member

    Oct 18, 2002
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    OK, let me get this straight (BTW, I'll preface by saying I support the war)--whether or not we should put a boot up Saddam's ass depends not on the facts of the situation, but on Shrub et al being more educated than Sean Penn et al.

    So let's rewind to the 1990s. A lot of the same Republicans who say it's wrong to oppose the President when troops are in harm's way... were doves back then for some odd reason. Hmmm. But how many of those Repubs have Georgetown, Yale Law School, and Oxford on their resumes? I would guess it isn't too many.
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

    Oct 21, 2002
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    Bestbank: That was neither the intent of the thread nor the responses. The Hollywood liberals consistently refer to Bush and his administration as dumb, morons, stupid, etc. Education may not imply intelligence, however you can bet that Harvard MBAs, GWU MBAs and PhDs from Denver's International Studies program are not handed out like candy. They are earned. And dumb people do not earn such academic achievements. By the way, are you aware that Ted Kennedy was booted out of Harvard? As to rewinding back to the nineties. That was before 9/11/01. Previous "dovish" positions were reanalyzed after we were attacked within our own borders. That should trigger the fighting instinct in all Americans. But this is a free country which means liberal know-nothings can spout off all they want.
  10. Realizing that education doesn't alway equal intelligence, the listing in the original post points out something to me: our politicians have dedicate the vast majority if not all of their adult lives in learning about and participating international studies. Additionally, they have worked their way into positions that afford them very frequent intelligence reports prepared by others who have spent collective lifetimes in analyzing intelligence information. By contrast, the entertainers listed haven't done that.

    Who is better informed when it comes to making decisions regarding our country's direction?

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