BCS Implications of the Arizona St./Oregon game?

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  1. TigerinAustin

    TigerinAustin Founding Member

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    #4 Arizona St @ #5 Oregon running an hour and a half behind our kickoff this weekend. Looks like a good cushion there but I'm no expert.

    Assuming a win over Bama (and for this to be a legitimate control value - let's say it's not a blow out and it's not sloppy either so the human poll impact on us is a wash for the sake of this argument) - could the winner of that match up still leap frog us?

    And for a little seasoning, feel free to consider the human impact of a blowout or close one in that matchup on the outcome.

    (current standings here for your reference)

    Prognosticate.
     
  2. Bayou Bengal11

    Bayou Bengal11 ~Orlando Tiger Coonass~

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    My first reaction is to get rid of all the undefeated teams. Experts seem to agree the tigers are the best one loss team and even better than most, if not all, the unbeaten teams. dunno
     
  3. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    Though a lot of voters still like us, I think all of the close games, comebacks, (and other issues that have been discussed here ad nauseam) we've had over the last few weeks is taking off a little bit of the luster we had prior to the Tulane game. Remember also that our SoS has taken a hit with Kentucky getting beat soundly by Moo U and UF losing to Georgia.

    Squeaking out a close win at Bama combined with Oregon blowing out ASU at home could very well be enough to jump us in the human polls and jump us in the BCS as a result. I don't think a modest Oregon win with home-field advantage will be enough to jump us, but all the more reason for a convincing win over Bama, which is something we haven't had since Middle Tennessee. A win by undefeated ASU on the road will almost certainly jump them to #3 in the BCS, with LSU at #4.

    Then again, the only BCS standings that matter are those in early December, and with no superior 1-loss team emerging yet, we're in very good position if we win out.
     
  4. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    I'm really wrestling with this one.

    Here's my thought pattern. I really believe ASU will lose a game after they play Oregon. So therefore, I hope for ASU to beat Oregon this weekend. That being said, if ASU runs the table, I can't see the voters keeping them behind a 1 loss LSU. ASU would overtake LSU THIS WEEK in the BCS poll, should both LSU and ASU wins. I don't even think LSU winning that extra SEC CG would even help us to overtake them. On the other hand, I am NOT totally convinced Oregon does overtake us with a win this weekend, especially if LSU can have that "convincing" win as dolemite alluded to. And the extra SEC CG WOULD help LSU to overtake Oregon, should Oregon squeak by us in the coming weeks in the BCS.

    So there you have it.
     
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  5. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    STYLE POINTS MATTER!

    No more "a win is a win is a win". Throw that train of thought away. We have to take control Saturday and impose our will on Saban. It all starts Saturday night.
     
  6. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    I just don't see BC, Kansas, or ASU going undefeated. BC since they looked shaky at VT and will have to play Clemson and possibly VT again in the ACC CG. If Kansas wins out, they will lose to OU in the Big 12 CG. ASU just has too much to overcome playing Oregon on the road and USC at home.

    I'm more worried about Oregon or OU winning out (Oregon more so due to their SoS) and getting those "style points." You're right, LSU must make a statement this weekend at Bama to set a tone for the rest of the season.
     
  7. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    Did UK losing to MSU hurt us too badly, or is it a wash because we played both teams (though we lost to one of them)?

    I know that UGA beating Florida and BC beating VT hurt us in the computers because we don't play either of those other teams (though we certainly could end up facing UGA in Atlanta.)
     
  8. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Whoever the winner is could very well leap LSU this week. A best case scenario would be for ASU and FSU to win this week as well as any SEC that we have defeated.
     
  9. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    perfect post, my sentiments exactly.
     
  10. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    If MSU was winning consistently instead of pulling out a fluke win, it would mean something, but we gain far more from a highly-ranked UK than a mediocre MSU.

    Assuming LSU wins out, we're looking at facing a 3-loss team for the SECCG, which doesn't help our BCS ranking. That's where S. Car. losing to Vandy, and UK and UF losing hurt us, having to play them again when they're highly ranked would have cemented us as a #2 if there's only 1 undefeated team. VT may get a shot at redemption. If they beat BC for the ACC championship, that would give LSU a shot in the arm. But I agree with islstl, LSU MUST get style points tomorrow.
     

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