Define martyr

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LSUTiga, Jul 13, 2016.

  1. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

    The incident with Kalyn Chapman, former Miss Alabama, calling the Dallas shooter a martyr. Was she wrong? The shooter died for a cause, his cause, not hers, necessarily.

    What I'm asking is if someone can be called a martyr without it being viewed as an accolade. To me her statement was correct, technically. I'm obviously not saying I agree with what he did, his reasons, etc. Just the simple fact that he died for a political stance he advocated. Doesn't that in fact make him a martyr?

    Like I've said before, we CANNOT and SHOULD NOT try to stop people from voicing opinions that seem "not okay" to most or even some people. To suppress that kind of speech ensures we will never deal with/work through differences of any kind.
     
  2. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

    What Isaiah Crowell did was as bad as I could imagine- short of actually killing a cop. Still, I don't think we need to make him quit football. We need to help people who are off-center and that requires knowing where their mind is, trying to understand how it got there. We don't want to find out when he walks into a IHOP and pulls out an AR.


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  3. sunnyjim

    sunnyjim Founding Member

    Martyrs die for a cause, which requires that there be other followers of the cause to be inspired. Lone nuts die for their particular delusion.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2016
  4. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

    11C
     
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  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

    The stuff that makes bricks stick together
     
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

    Very few will get this
     
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  7. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

    I knew it was good, whatever it was. :D
     
  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    I agree with you, I think the problem is it makes her look like she was saying he is a martyr to a cause she champions.
     

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