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http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Rankings/CFN_Rankings.htm

Here's the CFN belief when it comes to ranking teams: From the preseason until the end of the bowls, you must rank teams based on how good you believe they are at the moment. That's the point when it comes to putting the teams in some order. However, once the year is complete, it's only fair to take the subjectivity out of it and go by what actually happened on the field. To do that, we've created the CFN Formula used to rank every season in order to properly compare and contrast seasons from different eras.

Two things to keep in mind. 1) This takes into account the entire season punishing ugly losses and pumping up good wins. A win at the beginning of the year counts the same as a win at the end, so there might be some head-to-head discrepancies; they're unavoidable in any ranking system. Remember, this is looking at an entire season and not just which team beat another team, but for the most part, this formula has been tweaked so most of the head-to-head problems end up working themselves out.

2) This is NOT a ranking of which teams are the best or most talented. This is a formula to find out which teams had the best seasons. Anything else is simply opinion.
- The CFN Final Rankings based on opinion

The Formula's Components:
1. Wins. - If you win, everything else falls into place. Each win counts as 1.
2. Quality Wins - The number of wins over teams that finished with a winning record. Each win counts as 1.
3. Elite Wins - The number of wins over teams that finished with two losses or fewer. Each win counts as 1 with a road win over an Elite team getting an extra 0.5. Also counting as 1 is a road win over a team that finished with three losses or fewer (but the extra 0.5 isn't added). A new wrinkle was added this year. A win over a team that finishes with three losses in a bowl game counts as one.
4. Bad Loss - The number of losses to teams that finished with three wins or fewer or a loss to a DI-AA team. Each loss counts as minus-1. Take away an additional 0.5 for a Bad Loss at home.
5. Bad Win - The number of wins to teams that finished with three wins or fewer, or a win over a D-IAA team. Each win counts as minus 0.25.
6. Elite Loss - The number of losses to teams that finished with two losses or fewer. Each loss counts as 0.25.
7. Point Differential - Points for minus points against divided by 100.
8. Winning Percentage - To take losses into account, winning percentage is in the mix. Total wins is the tie-breaker followed by winning percentage.

1. Texas (13-0)
Final Score: 29.54
Quality Wins: 9. UL Lafayette, at Ohio State, at Missouri, Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas Tech, Kansas, Colorado, USC
Elite Win Score: 2.5. at Ohio State, USC
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 1.Rice
Elite Loss: 0 .... Point Differential Score: 4.29 ... Winning Percentage: 1.00

2. USC (12-1)
Final Score: 25.58
Quality Wins: 6. at Oregon, at Arizona State, at Notre Dame, at California, Fresno State, UCLA
Elite Win Score: 3.5. at Oregon, Notre Dame, UCLA
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 2. Arizona, at Washington ... Elite Loss: 1. Texas
Point Differential Score: 3.41 ... Winning Percentage: 0.92

3. Virginia Tech (11-2)
Final Score: 22.82
Quality Wins: 6. at NC State, Georgia Tech, at West Virginia, Boston College, at Virginia, Louisville
Elite Win Score: 2.5. at West Virginia, Louisville
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 1. at Duke ... Elite Loss: 0.
Point Differential Score: 2.72 ... Winning Percentage: 0.85

4. Penn State (11-1)
Final Score: 20.76
Quality Wins: 6. Central Michigan, at Northwestern, Minnesota, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Florida State
Elite Win Score: 1. Ohio State
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 1. at Illinois ... Elite Loss: 0.
Point Differential Score: 2.09 ... Winning Percentage: 0.92

5. LSU (11-2)
Final Score: 20.33
Quality Wins: 5. Arizona State, Florida, Auburn, at Alabama, Miami
Elite Win Score: 2.5. at Alabama, Miami
Bad Loss Score: 0
Bad Wins: 4. North Texas, at Miss State, Appalachian State, Ole Miss
Elite Loss: 0 ... Point Differential Score: 1.98 ... Winning Percentage: 0.85

6. Ohio State (10-2)
Final Score: 19.17
Quality Wins: 5. Iowa, at Minnesota, Northwestern, at Michigan, Notre Dame
Elite Win Score: 1. Notre Dame
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 1. Illinois ... Elite Loss: 2. Texas, at Penn State
Point Differential Score: 2.09 ... Winning Percentage: 0.83

7. TCU (11-1)
Final Score: 17.42
Quality Wins: 4. at Oklahoma, Utah, New Mexico, Iowa State
Elite Win Score: 0. at West Virginia, Louisville
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 1. UNLV ... Elite Loss: 0.
Point Differential Score: 1.75 ... Winning Percentage: 0.92

8. West Virginia (11-1)
Final Score: 17.38
Quality Wins: 3. at Rutgers, Louisville, Georgia
Elite Win Score: 1. Georgia
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 2. at Syracuse, Wofford ... Elite Loss: 1. Virginia Tech
Point Differential Score: 1.75 ... Winning Percentage: 0.92

9. Georgia (10-3)
Final Score: 17.23
Quality Wins: 4. Boise State, South Carolina, at Georgia Tech, LSU
Elite Win Score: 1. LSU
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 2. at Miss State, Kentucky ... Elite Loss: 1. West Virginia
Point Differential Score: 1.71 ... Winning Percentage: 0.77

10. Alabama (10-2)
Final Score: 16.88
Quality Wins: 4. Southern Miss, at South Carolina, Florida, Texas Tech
Elite Win Score: 1. Texas Tech
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 3. at Ole Miss, Utah State, at Miss State
Elite Loss: 1. LSU ... Point Differential Score: 1.35 ... Winning Percentage: 0.83
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locoguano, Jan 5, 2006

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nicely done....

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I like that formula

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Don't know if I agree with the term 'a bad win,' unless we won sloppy. I don't think we did in the 'bad win' column.

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Kind of hard for me to consider a 24-0 victory over the 1AA National Champions a "bad" win. Otherwise, it's a pretty good formula.

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G_MAN113 said:

Kind of hard for me to consider a 24-0 victory over the 1AA National Champions a "bad" win. Otherwise, it's a pretty good formula.
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I'd have to say this is true.

CParso, Jan 5, 2006

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21. Notre Dame.

Like I said, a top 25 team with no business being in the final top 10.

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SabanFan said:

21. Notre Dame.

Like I said, a top 25 team with no business being in the final top 10.
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How can you make such a statement ? Don't you realize its Notre Dame you are talking about ? You better hush your mouth !

HatcherTiger, Jan 5, 2006

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locoguano said:

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2005/Rankings/CFN_Rankings.htm

The Formula's Components:
3. Elite Wins - The number of wins over teams that finished with two losses or fewer. Each win counts as 1 with a road win over an Elite team getting an extra 0.5. Also counting as 1 is a road win over a team that finished with three losses or fewer (but the extra 0.5 isn't added). A new wrinkle was added this year. A win over a team that finishes with three losses in a bowl game counts as one.

4. Penn State (11-1)
Final Score: 20.76
Quality Wins: 6. Central Michigan, at Northwestern, Minnesota, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Florida State
Elite Win Score: 1. Ohio State
Bad Loss Score: 0 ... Bad Wins: 1. at Illinois ... Elite Loss: 0.
Point Differential Score: 2.09 ... Winning Percentage: 0.92

5. LSU (11-2)
Final Score: 20.33
Quality Wins: 5. Arizona State, Florida, Auburn, at Alabama, Miami
Elite Win Score: 2.5. at Alabama, Miami
Bad Loss Score: 0
Bad Wins: 4. North Texas, at Miss State, Appalachian State, Ole Miss
Elite Loss: 0 ... Point Differential Score: 1.98 ... Winning Percentage: 0.85

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Ok, this might be nit-picking but if these experts had done any homework, we jump over Penn St. According to their formula, you get one point for beating a team whose 3rd loss comes in a bowl game, but they don't give LSU a point for beating Auburn whose 3rd loss was to Wisconsin in the Bowl game. Add one more point and the final score is LSU 21.33
Penn State 20.76
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BlackJack said:

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already done
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Nutriaitch, Jan 5, 2006

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