Houston Chronicle Blog: Glenn Dorsey got bad "advice"

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  1. "Hurricane"

    "Hurricane" Founding Member

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    I think the coach has to layout all the options and all the facts for the player. Like draft predictions, draft predictions if he stays,...and he has to be very sincere about it. Then let the player make the choice, they're old enough to.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, Duhhhh! It's the coaches job to keep players in school and on track to get their diplomas. Coaches that encourage players to quit the team and stop progress towards graduation end up being fired.
     
  3. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    not true. coaches are quite aware its a business and advise players what is in the kid's best interest regarding the draft. at least usually.

    a diploma means nothing in the grand scheme of things regarding first round picks. thats bs for academicians and parents. you can always return either way.
     
  4. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    That's a good angle.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Tell it to Dale Brown, tirk. He advised Shaq to go pro and caught bloody hell for it. He was being paid to coach for LSU, not be a sports agent for his star players.

    Sure, but I'm talking about graduation rates. Coaches have to pay attention to them these days. Miles gets a $$ bonus if a certain percentage of his players graduate on time. More than one coach has been fired for ignoring graduation rates.
     
  6. Bamabuzzard

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    I just feel in today's college football the "tide" (truly no pun intended) can turn very very fast on a coach and a program. As a coach (and the security of my job) I want the best players to take the field as long as they can for the team I'm receiving a paycheck from. That may be selfish but when things are down people begin pulingl pink slips out rather quickly and it's not just Alabama that has become prone to doing it.....
     
  7. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    While I am certainly happy that Glenn returned, it's not like LSU has a huge hole at DT should he have gone to the NFL. It's arguably the deepest area on the team.
     
  8. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    i was referencing football in particular. times are different and players have much more information than in the past. coaches will not lie if they are sure their kid will get taken in the first round. if in doubt they will of course err on the side which favors them.


    good example is JR. no way miles told him to stay. graduation rates dont come into play when advising a kids best interest. dorsey was likely advised to return only due to injury which makes total sense. just like LL cool j was advised the same last year. graduation rates dont come into play if a coach is worth his salt.
     
  9. Bamabuzzard

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    True, but from a long term standpoint you (from a coach's standpoint) do not want to get into a habit of losing a lot of underclassmen to the NFL. It's a good thing to "brag about" but it will catch up with you.
     
  10. TejasTiger

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    Zierlein is pretty dialed in, usually, and is not known for being "anti-LSU" in any meaningful way.

    Yes, he did go to Tulane, but I seriously doubt that means anything in this case. His dad is a long-time college and pro offensive line coach. In short, Lance has some good sources, and I imagine his comments come from a scouting source who thought Dorsey woulda been a high pick.

    Coaches by no means try to move their guys to the NFL prematurely--hell, I imagine they'd love to have all of their great players stay 4-5 years. What they do and should do is try to get their kids as solid and good info on where they may go in the draft as possible, to make sure that they make a good and informed decision.

    JaMarcus Russell? Great, informed decision.

    Trev Falk? Uh, not so great...but in each case I'm sure the coaches involved did what they could to give both guys solid info. That's just the way it goes, in this day and age of major college football.
     
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