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Huge LHSAA Ruling Today Splitting Public/Private State Championships

Discussion in 'The RoundTable' started by lsutiga, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. lsutiga TF Pubic Relations

    I really don't GIAF but it'll accomplish what it wants getting John Curtis and Evangel out.
  2. gumborue Painfully Pessimistic

    I never got the system. How can pub schools compete with private schools that can recruit and have many more male students?
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  3. locoguano Fear the Beard.

    Its not just private schools. "Select" schools such as magnets, charters, and labs will be included in the "private" group. For example, most of the high schools in Baton Rouge are now or soon will be magnet.
  4. mctiger Kenny HIlliard, Beast

    From what I'm hearing, the problems are really with 4 schools, Curtis, Evangel, Calvary and Parkview, with University rapidly catching up. The rest are seen to have advantages and do take some liberties, but are not abusive to the point of those others.

    And its not just "recruiting." Someone made this point to me yesterday, though I can't say whether this is correct. Parkview beat Patterson 3 years ago for the state championship, and a lot of people said Kenny Guilliot outcoached Tommy Minton that night. Public school coaches have to teach classes. Minton teaches PE all morning, and his offensive and defensive coordinators are in the classroom all day. They don't see their football players until after 1:00 during the season. Guilliot, along with his coordinators, do not teach classes at all. They can work on football all day. Moreover, it was told to me that during the fall semester, Parkview lets its football players take "athletic PE" not for one, but for 2 classes a day. They're in the classroom to get their 5 core classes, but they get 2 class periods devoted to football before they even start practice in the afternoon. How can that not be a huge advantage?
  5. stevescookin Certified Who Dat

    This is all a bunch of misguided logic.

    The public schools want to eliminate the private competition because they want to win. This is an example of the "dumbing down" of America. Lets give everyone a trophy because everyone is a winner. This is absurd, in my mind. So much emphasis is placed on winning that the result is to eliminate the best teams from the division, class, organization. or whatever.

    In High School, the purpose of the athletic teams is for the betterment of the student/athletes. It's the same for the band or the debate teams, the drama clubs or the cheerleaders. It's not about winning. It's not about money and especially....it's not about the alumni or the fans.

    The message they're sending the public school athletes is that they're not good enough to compete fairly so lets eliminate the better teams from play.

    Sure, the football schools like Curtis and Evangel are misguided. and sure, they recruit, but they do exactly what LSU does under Miles....develop the athletes through coaching and training over the long haul. They're advantage isn't recruiting as much as it is developing the athletes' strength and technique over many years. Curtis starts in grammar school.
  6. stevescookin Certified Who Dat

    Maybe the LHSAA is on to something.....let's eliminate Alabama from the SEC so our alumni and fan base can feel better about themselves because they think we can't beat Bama.
  7. red55 curmudgeon

    No, the competition between well-funded private schools that recruit athletes and public schools is badly uneven and after decades of dissent, something is being done about it. If it doesn't work, it can be changed again. The private schools are not being eliminated from competition, they will just have their own championship series.
  8. lsutiga TF Pubic Relations

    Not really steve. I know A LOT of HS coaches and they really just want the playing field to be level. (Got dam, I sure as hell hope I didn't sound like Jessie Jackson). They have to play with the kids who reside within their Districts but the Private schools can take any kid, from anywhere. Don't even have to be living in the District.


    You realize it's the Principals' who vote/voted on this don't you?


    True but so does every other college program too. Recruit, that is. Public schools can't. That's where the level playing field comes in.
  9. lsutiga TF Pubic Relations

    I't's not much to do with them though. More specifically, it's the John Curtis/Evangel Rule. :D

    It's programs like that they're targeting.
  10. stevescookin Certified Who Dat

    Level playing field is a euphemism for winning...because the premise is public schools feel they can't win because they can't recruit. This is the misguided logic I refer to.

    I don't know about other football factories, but Curtis starts developing their players in first grade. I think their success is more about them playing 12 years in the system than it is about recruiting.

    Curtis is famous for winning high school championships....not for sending players to the NFL. Curtis players usually aren't landing at elite division I football programs because, coming out of high school, their athletes are about as good as they're ever gonna get. They're so well coached in the fundamentals that additional coaching in college isn't going to improve their athletes.

    Ironically, Curtis is a prime example of this misguided logic...they place way too much emphasis on winning. I'd rather see them place more emphasis on the other things that athletic competition brings to the table.
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