I call your boycott and raise you your lights

this analogy with the indians is so poor even i struggle to make a point with it, but i try:

like us, the indians should have just peacefully accepted the immigrants and allowed them to improve things.

 

Immigrants and marauding invaders are not the same thing. If the Indians had killed the first million or so whites that tried to steal their land, this might be a better place.

“The Indians knew that life was equated with the earth and its resources, that America was a paradise, and they could not comprehend why the intruders from the East were determined to destroy all that was Indian as well as America itself.”-Dee Brown

 

like i said, the analogy is terrible.

right. everyone hates the billions of incredible advancements made by white european civilization. better the indians should have stayed stone-age idiots, one with nature.

lets just end this anology.

 

Maybe we should be considering the influx of illegals as marauding invaders. They are a destabilizing influence.

 

Like I said, this might be a better place.

 

how so? by selling you burritos and doing your roof work for cheap?

look, i will buy it when europe says this crap. their immigrants are muslims and they bring primitive sharia crap with them. but mexicans are just regular folks that want to work hard and chill out.

 

The population of NYC is less than the number of illegal aliens in the US. The infrastructure needed to support that number of people isn't built from burrito sales and roof work.

 

but with the drug cartels, they will always find illegal drugs to sell. unless we legalize everything. i mean, pot is one thing. meth is another. and they WILL find a way to produce it cheaper and easier than the home grown meth labs and run it in. more and more state laws are making it more difficult to produce by the small time meth lab. without controls in mexico, they will produce it by the truck load and bring it in if they have to.

 

Yes, but how is that opportunity maintained? Regardless of how much money you make few people will choose to live and work in a country that shows a disregard for basic human rights and dignity.

Regardless of the hundreds of reasons we humans have migrated, we still chose to migrate. It's classic "grass is greener on the other side" that's seems to be embedded in our DNA, some more than others. When faced with unbearable hardship, we adapt whether it be innovating technology or industry or packing our bags in search of a better job.

The point I was attempting to make with that remark was in response to the frequent position here of many people to base their political decisions on how business is impacted. We don't need to worry about industry. They spend millions of dollars every year to see that legislation is passed in their favor without regard with how it impacts you and me.

Take the BP oil leak for example. Not even a year and a half ago they lobby to not require acoustic triggers on BOPs. They claim to have a comprehensive plan for leaks/spills in deep water drilling, etc. For all their blustering, their decisions were made with their bottom line in mind. No regard at all was given to the impact a "worst-case scenario" disaster might have on the state of Louisiana or the country. Just a month ago they make the decision to lobby the MMS for permission to pump sea water instead of mud because why? It's better for their bottom line.

We need to start concerning ourselves with how legislation affects us personally and not corporate greed because no one else is going to look out for us except us. Regardless of what legislation or regulation is passed, business will adapt and find a way to make money with their resources which are infinitely greater than yours or mine.

Okay, I'll use your analogy. The solution isn't to cut off the supply of eggs, but for other countries to find a goose of their own. Otherwise, they're just going to change the way they steal the eggs. Only then will people stop taking eggs.

There are literally hundreds of reasons why that analogy doesn't apply. The sheer numbers of American citizens is a great place to start.