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NoLimitMD Founding Member

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As most of you probably know, President Bush flew over NOLA at 2,500 feet, and Mississippi at 1,700 feet...in Air Force One! That's pretty low for that big of an aircraft...

Here's a picture of the SuperDome at 2,500 feet, courtesy of Google Earth. He could see a lot from that vantage point.

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Is it possible to get current photos on Google Earth?

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SabanFan said:

Is it possible to get current photos on Google Earth?
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I was wondering that myself.

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I'm curious to see pics of our new coastline...

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Not that I'm aware of (not on my version, anyway.)

See the attached pic though...I'm not sure when it was taken (though I THINK it was from mid-day yesterday) but the dark area shows the flooding.

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The map servers that offer high-resolution post-hurricane imagery right now are propreitary and are getting slammed by government agencies. There is a meeting at LSU this afternoon about getting access to the imagery for the fed/state/university agencies now working on Katrina recovery efforts.

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SabanFan said:

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Google Earth pics are at least 2 years old, some older. However the news has some pay pics they were showing before and after. Very much like the Tsunami's.

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Here's a recounting of that trip, from DrudgeReport, from a Washington Post reporter...

BUSH VIEWS DAMAGE FROM AIR FORCE ONE
Wed Aug 31 2005 16:36:21 ET

Aboard Air Force One

Before the news, a short programming note: POTUS will appear in the Rose Garden to make a statement at 5 p.m. following the hurricane meeting but does not plan to take questions.

Now the news: POTUS got an intense, personal view this morning of the extraordinary arc of devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina as Air Force One dipped out of the clouds and flew low over Gulf Coast states where whole neighborhoods and communities were wiped out and the city of New Orleans remained a virtual lake.

Air Force Col. Mark Tillman, the chief pilot of Air Force One, routed the Waco-to-Andrews flight along the southern edge of the United States to give POTUS a bird’s eye view but at points he and his crew brought the plane so low that it was barely above the skyscrapers of New Orleans. POTUS moved over to the left side of the plane where his Secret Service detail normally sits and watched intently out the window during the 35-minute flyover. His tour took him over New Orleans and then along the coast over Slidell, Waveland, Pass Christian, Gulfport, Biloxi and Pascagoula, before the plane climbed back to normal altitude, veered north and headed toward Washington.

“It’s devastating,” POTUS said as he watched, according to Scott McClellan. “It’s got to be doubly devastating on the ground.” McClellan said POTUS remained quiet through most of the flyover, pointing out various signs of destruction along with Karl Rove, J.D. Crouch and one of the pilots. “There wasn’t a whole lot of conversation going on,” McClellan said. “I think it’s very sobering to see from the air. And I think at some points you’re just kind of shaking your head in disbelief to see the destruction that has been done by the hurricane.”

While still photogs were allowed to snap POTUS’s picture at the beginning of the flyover, your pool remained in the back. Here’s a detailed account of the view from Air Force One as it was visible to POTUS, punctuated with McClellan’s readout of POTUS’s reaction during the flyover:

The plane descended from its cruising altitude of 29,000 down to 2,500 feet as it headed toward the New Orleans area about 11:30 a.m. central time, then dipped down as low as 1,700 feet as it swooped over the city. From the air, New Orleans appeared almost completely washed out, whole sections still submerged below water, virtually no cars on the roads that were still above water. It was haunting to see virtually no signs of continuing human habitation at all. “Oh man, that’s the whole city,” exclaimed one of the stunned Air Force officers watching with your pool. “Look at all that water,” said another. The damage to the Superdome was readily apparent as it seemed that part of the skin of the roof had been peeled back. Many other office buildings in downtown New Orleans had substantial roof damage as well.

As Air Force One moved further east, the extensive scope of the flooding in New Orleans became even clearer. Miles upon miles of residential neighborhoods were completely under water, with one large section so flooded that the water appeared to reach all the way up to, and even above, the roofs of the houses. Highways disappeared into the water and at least one boat could be seen motoring down what once was a major road. Several helicopters buzzed over this part of the city. One Coast Guard helicopter hovered so low over one area that its rotor blades were whipping up the water below; it appeared the helicopter might have been in the midst of a rescue right then. It was in this part of the city, according to McClellan, when POTUS made his remark about it being “devastating” and “doubly devastating” on the ground.

Heading east to the city’s outskirts and beyond, some suburban and rural communities were virtually obliterated. Acres and acres of forests were leveled, the trees literally flattened as if stepped on. An amusement park appeared to be a model in a bathtub, the roller-coaster emerging from the water.

Further along, with Air Force One back at 2,500 feet, the other most devastated area was in the area of the Mississippi towns of Waveland and Pass Christian, where there was not much water but many miles of wooden houses were completely smashed, left looking from the air like nothing more than piles of matchsticks as far as the eye could see. “It’s totally wiped out,” POTUS said at this point, according to McClellan.

For long stretches of the coast, not a single building appeared to still be standing, and those few that were appeared severely damaged. Train cars were abandoned off the tracks. Smoke billowed up from a fire. The causeway between Waveland and Pass Christian had totally collapsed, rendered into nothing but rubble. POTUS pointed out a church still standing while all the houses around it were destroyed, McClellan said. Over Gulfport and Biloxi, the casinos were clearly damaged. Around here, C-17 transport planes were visible in the sky delivering supplies. Just after noon central time, Air Force One began climbing again away from the region.

One other nugget from McClellan: Just prior to the flyover, POTUS took a call from King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia who expressed condolences on the loss of life and damage from the hurricane. “The king offered Saudi Arabia’s support,” McClellan said. He said the two did not discuss any increase in oil production by Saudi Arabia, but noted that he had read reports suggesting the Saudis were preparing to help stabilize oil markets. Filed By:
Peter Baker
The Washington Post
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red55 said:

The map servers that offer high-resolution post-hurricane imagery right now are propreitary and are getting slammed by government agencies. There is a meeting at LSU this afternoon about getting access to the imagery for the fed/state/university agencies now working on Katrina recovery efforts.
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can u post us some? I have authorized your clearance to disclose.

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tirk said:

can u post us some? I have authorized your clearance to disclose.
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We haven't gotten access yet. And posting any images would depend on whether a . . . vacation to Leavenworth, Kansas was involved. :yelwink2:

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