Real story: Lack of attrition at LSU

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  1. Bengaleze

    Bengaleze Founding Member

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    One of the reasons this class is going to be fairly small is the lack of attrition since Saban came here. The question is why? and can Miles keep it going?

    Why:
    1. Saban recruited good guys, see Skip in baseball- 5 rings.
    2. Saban was straight up with them, if you're the best - you play.

    Can Miles continue:
    1. Who knows, seems to be upstanding guy from all I 've read.
    I know the Coach McCartney, former Colorado coach, is his mentor.
    So he's probably stand up guy also.
     
  2. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    Miles is down to earth and straightforward. During his time at OSU I never doubted his character. He also recruited well in Texas, and pulled OSU out of the cellar. He got kids to Stillwater that otherwise wouldn't have even looked that way.
     
  3. Bengaleze

    Bengaleze Founding Member

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    I'm sure he's a good recruiter, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about

    We've had good recruiters here before, LA is talent rich compared to other states and the lack of D1 competition in the state.
    The multi-star recruits stayed even when they didn't play which was a stark departure from times past.

    There was some of that early in Saban's tenure, but as he got more of "his" classes in you saw less and less of that type of stuff.
    Not that it never happened, but not on the major scale of some other programs.
     
  4. MarineTiger

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    Re: I'm sure he's a good recruiter, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about

    Miles made OSU into a damn respectable recruiting base out of nothing.

    I think Miles will be a very good recruiter for the next few years but he needs to translate it to wins on the field.
     
  5. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    I think when Saban first got here he had a few more guys transferring out because the quality of the overwhelming majority of Saban's new recruits was so much higher than many of the guys that were here already. after that all of the guys are pretty dran good and probably felt they had a good shot at winning playing time.

    And I have a feeling that of Saban's classes the 2002 class will have the most defections as they were not as good as the other classes.
     
  6. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    Yea, look at Nebraska signing 30+ players. Callahan stated last year that he was concerned about having the talent needed to win games, and it looks like he's started cleaning house. I'm guessing a lot of the players there have started transferring (either at the coach's initiative or on their own.)
     
  7. MarineTiger

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    Recruiting Rankings mean ****....literally....they mean jack ****.

    I will take who Miles believes is good AND who want to come here.
     
  8. Bengaleze

    Bengaleze Founding Member

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    I'm not talking about rankings but overall numbers.

    When you see programs like LSU and GA in the 5th or 6th year of coach's tenure only have around 14-16 schollies to offer, you know that some of the previous classes have "stuck". I'm sure there are others, but when you see schools like Alabama give out 30 ships, that's not normally good for a program. I guess you'd like to get to the place where you offer around 20 per year. I know with college kids, one year it's up and the next it's down, but seems like a good number. I think OM also offered upwards of 30 ships, and we saw what kind of year produced that.

    All things being relatively equal, a senior led team beats a soph. led team almost every time. I think that's why we struggled last year. This year we'll have more seniors and I think it'll translate to more wins.
     
  9. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    Re: I'm not talking about rankings but overall numbers.

    Guess you mean had 30 LOI's sent in and not "gave out 30 ships". No one can give out that many. And LSU had 29 LOI's in 2004 as well so I don't think I would take that as a bad sign for the program.
     
  10. BostonBengal

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    Also, don't forget he was a player for Bo Schembeckler (sp?) at Michigan.
     

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