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The Real Story of SEAL rescue?

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by SabanFan, Apr 21, 2009.

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gumborue Throwin Ched

CarolinaTiger61 said: ↑

Today the National Security Adviser gave details of the operation from the White House's viewpoint. From the Washington Times:
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im sure they are just covering up for B.O.

and

the washington times is a liberal rag.

gumborue, Apr 22, 2009

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red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

gumborue said: ↑

im sure they are just covering up for B.O.

and

the washington times is a liberal rag.
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From Wiki:

The Washington Times is a daily broadsheet newspaper published in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States. It was founded in 1982 by Unification Church founder Sun Myung Moon. The Times is known for its conservative stance on political and social issues. The Times has never been a financial success and has about one-seventh of the circulation of its major competitor in Washington, the Washington Post.
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red55, Apr 22, 2009

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gumborue Throwin Ched

red55 said: ↑

From Wiki:
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see, thats why the post was supposed to be funny.

gumborue, Apr 22, 2009

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LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

Well the blog was much more interesting, lol.

LSUMASTERMIND, Apr 22, 2009

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bonnesmares Freshman

You should consider reading the following from Snopes which notes according to multiple sources that this story is mostly false. snopes.com: Navy SEALs Rescue Captain Phillips from Somali Pirates

bonnesmares, Apr 23, 2009

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red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

MSNBC: SEAL EMAIL CRITICIZING OBAMA IS BOGUS

According to the officials the timeline of events and decisions were as follows:

Wednesday, April 8
The Maersk Alabama is hijacked by four Somali pirates. The U.S. destroyer Bainbridge, 300 miles away, heads in that direction. Military officials tell NBC News that officials with the Maersk shipping company informed the U.S. Navy they wanted no military intervention, they wanted to negotiate, pay a ransom and be on their way. Senior military officials informed the White House this would not require a military response but the Bainbridge continued in that direction.

Thursday, April 9
Bainbridge arrives in the vicinity of Maersk Alabama as the situation turned ugly and the four pirates took Captain Richards hostage in a lifeboat. The skipper aboard the Bainbridge realized he didn't have the "assets" necessary to handle a hostage situation and informed his superiors he needed the skills that Navy SEALS could bring to the fight.

Friday, April 10
Captain Phillips jumped into the sea in an attempt to escape his pirate captors, but the Bainbridge was a mile away from the lifeboat at the time and had no special operations forces in the water or the air that could have helped Phillips escape.

The nearest Navy SEAL team was on a training mission in Kenya. In military legalese, that SEAL team was considered an "EXTREMIS NATIONAL ASSET," which meant it would require presidential authority to pull the SEALS out of Kenya. Military officials went to the White House to brief national security officials and within "a couple of hours" President Obama signed off on the order to deploy the Navy SEALS, who were airdropped into the water and taken onto the Bainbridge

Friday night Somalia time: The President also gave the SEALS the authority to use "lethal force" to rescue Captain Philliips if it was determined his life was in "imminent danger."

By late Friday it was determined the specialized more advance skillsets of SEAL TEAM SIX, (the Navy's equivalent of DELTA FORCE), now known as the DEVELOPMENT GROUP were needed and planning began to deploy them from Little Creek, Virginia to the Indian Ocean.

At the same time, the hostage rescue operation was officially designated a "COUNTER-TERRORISM OPERATION," which allowed the White House and the military to cut through the usual red tape that exists in combining military and law enforcement operations.

The White House and military also laid out the three primary objectives of the mission:
1) try to negotiate for the peaceful release of hostage Captain Phillips.
2) keep the lifeboat from reaching the Somali shore.
3) use lethal force if the Captain's life is in imminent danger.

Saturday, April 11
The military sought and President Obama immediately granted the request and authority for SEAL TEAM SIX to use "lethal force" if it was determined Captain Phillips life was in danger. SEAL TEAM SIX was airdropped into the water at night and taken aboard the Bainbridge.

Sunday, April 12
At 7:19 pm Somalia time, three Navy snipers from SEAL TEAM SIX, lying prone on the fan-tail of the Bainbridge, fired three precision and simultaneous shots that instantly killed the three remaining pirates holding Captain Phillips hostage aboard the lifeboat.
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red55, Apr 23, 2009

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SabanFan The voice of reason

red55 said:

MSNBC
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Stopped reading right there. :hihi:

Saturday, April 11
The military sought and President Obama immediately granted the request and authority for SEAL TEAM SIX to use "lethal force" if it was determined Captain Phillips life was in danger. SEAL TEAM SIX was airdropped into the water at night and taken aboard the Bainbridge.
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Seriously, Phillip's life was in danger the moment he stepped onto that survival capsule.

SabanFan, Apr 23, 2009

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red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

SabanFan said: ↑

Seriously, Phillip's life was in danger the moment he stepped onto that survival capsule.
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But at that time there was no one there to help. The SEAL snipers are good but a shot from Little Creek, Virginia wasn't going to help. This is why the on scene commander was given decision-making authority. Once he had the tools and the talent, then all of his options were open and he could take action . . . and so he did.

red55, Apr 23, 2009

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gumborue Throwin Ched

SF, i think you owe Barry an apology.:hihi:

gumborue, Apr 23, 2009

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SabanFan The voice of reason

gumborue said: ↑

SF, i think you owe Barry an apology.:hihi:
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You're right. Adccording to the Book of Red he is omnipotent and incapable of saying or doing the wrong thing. He is the greatest person to ever inhabit the planet. I humbly ask forgiveness and pray that I may share his oxygen.

SabanFan, Apr 23, 2009

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