Will Mississippi State ever be a real team again?

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  1. USNavyTiger

    USNavyTiger Founding Member

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    Nope
     
  2. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    I think Croom will get it turned around. Not around like they'll be top 10 each year, but I think he'll get them respectable again. Having Orgeron up the road is going to help him A LOT.
     
  3. clair

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    You can be a good coach all you want, but until you win a game, you won't have talent at all... and until Croom gets that one "Big Win" he won't do anything...

    I thought Florida was it for him last year, but I guess I am wrong!

    I can't wait to hear the race card played if they fire up in a few years, even though he would have a record WAY below .500
     
  4. Geekboy

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    Will Nebraska ever be a real team again?
     
  5. blindside517

    blindside517 Founding Member

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    they would be a real team right now(nebraska) but they had to fire frank solich who did nothing there....at all....oh yeah but win!
     
  6. Carface

    Carface What the...?

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    You mean they aren't?
     
  7. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    Just a little perspective on this team, if you don't mind.

    If he's going to get this team past the proverbial "hump" we are talking about here he's going to have to start by replacing a lot of those he has on staff. And, he's going to have to get over some of his angst re: not getting the Bama job. Before you go off here...let me give you a bit of background on this year.

    I want to say it was the first week of March but I can say I know it was during spring camp when I received the first report of how his focus was going into this season. I've heard from players, former players, recruits and one on the current staff that he, literally daily, had been talking about beating Bama this year. I personally think while that team and its staff have been going through preparations for upcoming games, they were just going through the motions. To put all your energy into one game vs taking it one game at a time is going to lead you down one road; Defeat Avenue.

    Croom, while he's done some good things in his career both on the collegiate level as an asst. coach and in his NFL career literally shot himself in the foot when he brought in McCorvey and Johnson as his coordinators. McCorvey did a pretty good job when he was on Stallings' staff, but when he was passed over for the coaching job and moved to UT he's had an anti-Bama bias since that day. A bias, the borderlines on hatred.

    The same can be said for Johnson...who, I can say for watching him at Bama and his coaching stint at The Citadel, is of the same ilk as McCorvey. When Johnson was fired at Bama it was stated in his contract he would receive his salary until he found another position. He was hired at The Citadel, he stopped receiving his salary from Bama because of that hire, and subsequently decided he would file suit against Bama for not getting paid anymore. His reasoning was, "it wasn't a job of the same caliber as the one he had at Bama." (Never mind the fact he interviewed for it and accepted it). So, there again you have a case where one of the main coaches has a lot of ill will against Bama.

    Combine those 3 and their prejudices and you see where I'm going. If you doubt what I'm saying just look at his staff and see the Bama and UT connections and tell my it wasn't personal.

    Now, consider this statement from Henig last Thursday.

    With that kind of mentality within a coaching staff you may pull an upset once in a while (although, I wouldn't call beating Zook's Gators an upset) but to build a team that will compete you have to have an outlook that isn't just one game.

    His first step to right this ship? Change OC and DC.

    As a side note...

    I don't know how many of you guys watched the game yesterday but there was an interesting exchange between Blackledge and Lundquist. They talked about Croom relaying a dream he had Thursday night where he was in a truck going fishing with Bryant and then Bryant decided he wanted to play tennis.

    I'm no Carl Jung...but that sounds to me like an obsession...with his mind trying to figure out why he's strayed so far from the path he was brought up on. I may be streching it...but you seldom find tennis players spending their time in a pick-up truck going fishing when they aren't playing tennis. It's too different types of people, ya know? He's gone from one type of person to another in the last few years...

    That, my Tiger friends is just a small portion of some of the things I could relay to you guys on what's going on inside of that program in relation to building it back up and the focus on others instead of what you can control. To continue, would only get my blood boiling a bit much for a Sunday morning when I'm just getting to my second cup of coffee.

    Time to move on to Saturday's game.
     
  8. diamondheadtiger

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    Lombardi would be a loser in Starkville.
     
  9. TigerBait3

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    When was State a real team?
     

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