Interesting and thought provoking discussion. In my mind there are a lot of factors that contributed to the tragedy in Connecticut. The only significant one I would support being changed via legislation would be a ban on assault weapons. The other contributing factors are a byproduct of the society we live in today.
statistics and reality. having a gun always makes you less safe, not more safe. if you dont feel safe you should move somewhere safe.
Id like to know what statistics you look at for this. If I am in a fight for my life, not sure how having a gun would make me less safe. Also not sure how having a gun in my home makes me less safe from an intruder? Is it because me having a gun provokes a mortal fight? Or is it simple potential of violence because of the gun? I would also like you to define safe havens in America and how no crime happens there. Gun ownership isn't always about personal safety Martin.
There are no safe havens, as was sadly apparent last Friday in Connecticut. However, there are safer places than others out there.
Sure, but I mean we see every day that any place is subject to violent crime. Just think if 1 person in the movie theater was packing. Maybe could have saved a few lives. There are valid arguments on both sides.
We will become extinct. I just don't buy any of the Mad Max apocalypse scenarios. Even if it happened you'd be better off with a hunting rifle and hunting ammo. Got to travel light with no cars. For the weight of an assault rifle and four 30-round magazines, you could have a .22 rifle and 2,500 rounds. Thats a lot of squirrel and rabbit.
The argument if weight is just fucking silly Red. I can support a debate on this, but not fucking gun and ammo weight. Seriously. A stock AR-15 weighs like 7 lbs. Furthermore, AR's can shoot .22.
You have to be the most sheltered individual on the planet. Have you ever once considered having an adventure, Bilbo? Go to Paris or Ensenada or Soho and risk getting into a barhouse brawl. Go to a music festival with lots of drugs and lewd women and risk having some fun. Paddle from Lake Superior to Hudson's bay and risk your life in wilderness whitewater. If you've never been threatened with crime, then you are not experiencing New York properly, Hoss.
I can attest to the fact that I have never once bought a gun with the intention of self defense. I just happen to own guns because I like to use them. I was never raised to think that I needed a gun to defend my family. We always had them for sport. That was it! Though I will say there are certain cities that if I lived in because of a job or something like that, I would carry.
That's an interesting point. I was born and raised in a small town of less than 3,000 people and one red light. I don't recall us locking the doors at night. There wasn't a need to. Obviously, that's not the case today.
