2 LSU football players arrested for burgalry

Stealing a credit card and using it doesn't sound like identity theft to me. In the old days, it would have been simple burglary and unauthorized use of a credit card.

Identity theft means something totally different to me.

 

That's a good point. I guess, technically, if you use someone's credit card under an assumed name, you're using their "Identity" but I agree with the point you make on the formal charge.

It also said they stole their "Id's" which literally means they took them, not necessarily assumed them so I guess we'll have to see the developments cause it is ambiguous.

 

Either way, I have no problem cutting these guys loose if it's true. It shouldn't ruin their lives, but they should not be on scholly at LSU. Let them start anew somewhere else.

 

Other than the Pittman punching incident, has Miles encountered anything like this during his time at LSU ? I can't remember. Will be interesting to see how he responds.

 

That's what I was thinking too......he'll be setting the tone and I get the impression that even though he's a great person, players' coach, etc. he's serious about ethics, morals, abiding by laws and by the book kinda guy.

I don't look for him to side-step anything out of line if the allegations prove to be accurate.

 

Like everywhere else these days, I have to think the athletic department or each team has some orientation program warning kids about this type of thing. Perhaps a History of Shame including incidents this should be added.

You have to wonder - is it simply stupidity or complete arrogance and self-importance deluding someone into believing they can do this and not ruin almost all future potential. We have all heard of athletes who are conditioned into believing they can get away with anything. How can someone be disciplined on the field, and in practice, yet pull crap like this? While we are not always privy to what truly occurs behind the scenes, I can't believe troublesome athletes make good team members or work well with coaches. A thug is a thug.

So, what did they get? Some clothes? A few CDs or DVDs? Maybe a tankful of gas? Whatever it might have been, these items will likely be the most costly things they ever laid their hands on.

 

Good stuff, right here. Very good.

You know, a lot of athletes that make it to elite levels can be very socially under-developed. While others were out living in the 'real world' and gaining life-experiences, these guys were hitting the gyms, practicing, in camps, etc. In addition, many of these guys have been pampered and catered to since they were very young because of their tremendous athletic prowess or potential. Rather than developing the social skills necessary to interact with your peers, many of these guys had people simply falling at their feet, no matter where they went.

Now, that's not to say that all athletes are under-developed, because that is certainly not the case. But I think it can provide a bit of insight as to why so many of them turn out to be such a-holes.

 

Reminds me of a friend I had (Not a close one, seriously) who was bragging about the ribeyes he'd bring back from offshore in his bag- stealing them. I asked him if he thought even a rack of ribeyes was worth losing a $75,000.00 job for.....$75.00 of meat for a $75,000.00 a year income?? He was so puzzled he couldn't respond except to nod his head in shame. I guess thieves don't analyze things well and that's where parenting comes into play; however, even good parents sometimes have kids who make bad choices too.

 

A reminder isn't a bad thing as awareness is certainly important and I imagine most college programs have awareness sessions for athletes regarding substance abuse, crime, gambling and the like. But, warning kids doesn't seem to be a very effective deterrant to bad behavior. Criminal thinking is very difficult to redirect. My suspicion is that these two did not develop a character flaw over the weekend. Like the 40 year old caught shoplifting, although possible, it is unlikely that this is first time behavior.