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  1. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    Don't count on that. Bertman is feeling the heat, yes. Is he going to be doing a confidential search after 2 games against top 15 teams into Miles' career? No way in hell.
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Yes, stats never lie. But they often mislead.

    No other team in the SEC has played ONLY opponents ranked in the top-15. No other team in the SEC has only TWO games to base statistics upon. The chances of LSU finishing this low on defense are nil.

    It will be interesting to watch the stats as the season progresses. But right now, I'd say that dismissing LSU's season based on these stats would be a erroneous conclusion based on a sample size of 2.
     
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  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It's a badge of something . . . but honor ain't it.
     
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  4. Dutchtown tiger

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    Once we factor the cupcakes with florida, vandy and miss state, I think we will have a VERY CLEAR PICTURE in the stat department. Getting back to the powers, remember there were several powers at lsu were not happy with the coaching search, they taught it was half ass, and those people now are screaming at bertman.
     
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  5. Draino13

    Draino13 Founding Member

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    Great stats! we are behind some worst defenses in the league! Miles needs to get a copy and give it to Pellini. If pellini blames the players then show him the 2005 orange bowl stats
     
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  6. medtiger

    medtiger Founding Member

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    lol
     
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  7. Okpoman

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    "Oh, the humanity!"

    (seems somewhat appropos) :cuss:
     
    Okpoman, Sep 28, 2005
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  8. BigMamou

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    You got to consider your opponents on those stats..
    2 games one a come from behind triller and one a meltdown...
    I think time will tell and it may be a little early to hang the guy???
     
    BigMamou, Sep 28, 2005
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  9. BostonBengal

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    Congrats. You just posted a whole lot of statistics, bashing LSU's production vs and where we stand after games against the #15 and #10 teams in the country.

    Show me the stats of all SEC teams AGAINST teams in the top 15 and then repost.

    Amazing. Statistics DO show us a lot. They inform us a lot. But the bad thing about stats is that you can manipulate them to show what you want them to show. In this case, you're using statistical rankings to demonstrate LSU's inferior statistics compared to the rest of the SEC, but you fail to leave out the fact that none of those other schools have stats that are reflective of having to face a top 15 team twice thus far.
     
    BostonBengal, Sep 28, 2005
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  10. medtiger

    medtiger Founding Member

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    alright genius, here are the final statistics of last year and guess what...LSU played at least 4 top 15 teams. Take your illogical argument elsewhere.


    SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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    1. Auburn.............. 13 19 15 0 0 6 0 147 11.3
    2. Alabama............. 12 23 21 0 0 10 0 189 15.8
    3. Georgia............. 12 23 20 1 0 12 1 198 16.5
    4. LSU................. 12 25 20 1 0 11 0 205 17.1
    5. South Carolina...... 11 28 24 2 0 11 0 229 20.8
    6. Florida............. 12 30 27 2 0 14 0 253 21.1
    7. Tennessee........... 13 37 33 1 0 12 1 295 22.7
    8. Arkansas............ 11 34 29 1 0 11 1 270 24.5
    9. Ole Miss............ 11 36 35 0 0 9 0 278 25.3
    10.Mississippi State... 11 35 32 1 0 12 0 280 25.5
    11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 36 31 2 0 11 1 286 26.0
    12.Kentucky............ 11 44 36 3 0 11 1 341 31.0



    PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    1. Alabama............. 12 242 105 12 43.4 1357 5.6 9 113.1
    2. LSU................. 12 333 160 14 48.0 1886 5.7 16 157.2
    3. Auburn.............. 13 367 200 16 54.5 2255 6.1 15 173.5
    4. Mississippi State... 11 272 159 12 58.5 1919 7.1 15 174.5
    5. South Carolina...... 11 328 174 17 53.0 1950 5.9 13 177.3
    6. Georgia............. 12 326 180 5 55.2 2184 6.7 13 182.0
    7. Kentucky............ 11 276 157 12 56.9 2235 8.1 13 203.2
    8. Florida............. 12 395 219 17 55.4 2444 6.2 15 203.7
    9. Ole Miss............ 11 313 148 8 47.3 2262 7.2 13 205.6
    10.Vanderbilt.......... 11 304 198 9 65.1 2288 7.5 14 208.0
    11.Arkansas............ 11 287 172 6 59.9 2386 8.3 18 216.9
    12.Tennessee........... 13 418 254 16 60.8 3073 7.4 19 236.4



    RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
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    1. LSU................. 12 410 1197 2.9 7 99.8
    2. Auburn.............. 13 413 1354 3.3 4 104.2
    3. Georgia............. 12 421 1283 3.0 7 106.9
    4. Tennessee........... 13 451 1560 3.5 15 120.0
    5. Alabama............. 12 484 1589 3.3 11 132.4
    6. South Carolina...... 11 374 1517 4.1 13 137.9
    7. Florida............. 12 464 1703 3.7 11 141.9
    8. Arkansas............ 11 435 1983 4.6 15 180.3
    9. Ole Miss............ 11 449 2031 4.5 22 184.6
    10.Mississippi State... 11 478 2094 4.4 17 190.4
    11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 446 2139 4.8 20 194.5
    12.Kentucky............ 11 500 2477 5.0 26 225.2



    TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
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    1. Alabama............. 12 1589 1357 726 2946 4.1 20 245.5
    2. LSU................. 12 1197 1886 743 3083 4.1 23 256.9
    3. Auburn.............. 13 1354 2255 780 3609 4.6 19 277.6
    4. Georgia............. 12 1283 2184 747 3467 4.6 20 288.9
    5. South Carolina...... 11 1517 1950 702 3467 4.9 26 315.2
    6. Florida............. 12 1703 2444 859 4147 4.8 26 345.6
    7. Tennessee........... 13 1560 3073 869 4633 5.3 34 356.4
    8. Mississippi State... 11 2094 1919 750 4013 5.4 32 364.8
    9. Ole Miss............ 11 2031 2262 762 4293 5.6 35 390.3
    10.Arkansas............ 11 1983 2386 722 4369 6.1 33 397.2
    11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 2139 2288 750 4427 5.9 34 402.5
    12.Kentucky............ 11 2477 2235 776 4712 6.1 39 428.4



    PASS DEF EFFICIENCY G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds TD Effic
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    1. Alabama............. 12 242 105 12 43.4 1357 9 92.8
    2. LSU................. 12 333 160 14 48.0 1886 16 103.1
    3. South Carolina...... 11 328 174 17 53.0 1950 13 105.7
    4. Auburn.............. 13 367 200 16 54.5 2255 15 110.9
    5. Florida............. 12 395 219 17 55.4 2444 15 111.3
    6. Ole Miss............ 11 313 148 8 47.3 2262 13 116.6
    7. Georgia............. 12 326 180 5 55.2 2184 13 121.6
    8. Mississippi State... 11 272 159 12 58.5 1919 15 127.1
    9. Tennessee........... 13 418 254 16 60.8 3073 19 129.9
    10.Kentucky............ 11 276 157 12 56.9 2235 13 131.8
    11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 304 198 9 65.1 2288 14 137.6
    12.Arkansas............ 11 287 172 6 59.9 2386 18 146.3




    OPPONENT 1ST DOWNS G Rush Pass Pen Total
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    1. LSU................. 12 59 87 12 158
    2. Alabama............. 12 90 63 13 166
    3. South Carolina...... 11 80 87 10 177
    4. Auburn.............. 13 77 93 17 187
    5. Georgia............. 12 85 88 18 191
    6. Ole Miss............ 11 97 92 20 209
    Arkansas............ 11 96 108 5 209
    8. Mississippi State... 11 114 86 13 213
    9. Vanderbilt.......... 11 114 106 8 228
    10.Kentucky............ 11 119 98 14 231
    11.Florida............. 12 102 120 17 239
    12.Tennessee........... 13 96 134 25 255

    SACKS BY G Sacks Yards
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    1. Georgia............. 12 37 266
    LSU................. 12 37 296
    3. Auburn.............. 13 36 221
    4. Tennessee........... 13 33 232
    5. Alabama............. 12 25 166
    6. Ole Miss............ 11 22 172
    Florida............. 12 22 139
    8. Kentucky............ 11 20 150
    9. Arkansas............ 11 16 122
    10.Mississippi State... 11 14 77
    11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 13 92
    12.South Carolina...... 11 12 97

    PENALTIES G No Yds Avg/G
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    1. Vanderbilt.......... 11 53 444 40.4
    2. Arkansas............ 11 63 455 41.4
    3. South Carolina...... 11 67 489 44.5
    4. LSU................. 12 72 547 45.6
    5. Mississippi State... 11 65 528 48.0
    6. Alabama............. 12 70 614 51.2
    7. Auburn.............. 13 80 686 52.8
    8. Kentucky............ 11 80 614 55.8
    9. Tennessee........... 13 85 732 56.3
    10.Ole Miss............ 11 77 626 56.9
    11.Georgia............. 12 94 795 66.2
    12.Florida............. 12 106 844 70.3




    OPP 4TH-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
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    1. Arkansas............ 11 2 9 22.2
    2. Florida............. 12 7 17 41.2
    3. LSU................. 12 5 12 41.7
    4. Alabama............. 12 6 14 42.9
    5. Georgia............. 12 8 18 44.4
    6. Ole Miss............ 11 6 13 46.2
    Tennessee........... 13 6 13 46.2
    Mississippi State... 11 6 13 46.2
    9. Auburn.............. 13 10 21 47.6
    10.South Carolina...... 11 4 8 50.0
    11.Kentucky............ 11 12 22 54.5
    12.Vanderbilt.......... 11 8 14 57.1




    OPP 3RD-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
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    1. Georgia............. 12 44 161 27.3
    2. Auburn.............. 13 48 174 27.6
    3. Alabama............. 12 47 161 29.2
    4. LSU................. 12 56 176 31.8
    5. Tennessee........... 13 68 177 38.4
    6. Ole Miss............ 11 63 162 38.9
    7. South Carolina...... 11 58 147 39.5
    8. Florida............. 12 75 188 39.9
    9. Arkansas............ 11 59 146 40.4
    10.Kentucky............ 11 64 158 40.5
    11.Mississippi State... 11 64 155 41.3
    12.Vanderbilt.......... 11 68 145 46.9







    RUSHING OFFENSE G Att Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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    1. LSU................. 12 506 2326 4.6 20 193.8
    2. Arkansas............ 11 467 2061 4.4 22 187.4
    3. Tennessee........... 13 520 2418 4.7 21 186.0
    4. Alabama............. 12 502 2221 4.4 21 185.1
    5. Auburn.............. 13 553 2383 4.3 27 183.3
    6. South Carolina...... 11 464 1856 4.0 14 168.7
    7. Ole Miss............ 11 439 1752 4.0 13 159.3
    8. Mississippi State... 11 401 1744 4.3 11 158.5
    9. Georgia............. 12 463 1882 4.1 16 156.8
    10.Florida............. 12 415 1870 4.5 20 155.8
    11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 439 1634 3.7 16 148.5
    12.Kentucky............ 11 355 1185 3.3 11 107.7
     
    medtiger, Sep 28, 2005
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