1. Yes red. We played fair in every war after WW2.

    Use your old brain and you should understand what that means.

    Iraq is not a total war. If it was, it would have lasted 2 months. Neither is Afghanistan, neither was Vietnam, etc.

    We had strict ROIs when the enemy had none.
  2. Do you mean ROE? Rules of Engagement
  3. Yep I'm a dumbass.

    So I'm in sales and frequently use ROI. Return on investment :/
  4. Got you. And I was going to suggest you blame it on Red. IconLOL.gif
  5. It's always his fault. And obamas. And Les Miles.

    Throw in Jennings for good measure n
  6. It's not so much about ROE, yes those are strict and at times hamstring us. They are enforced heavily. I see @red55 point but what he is failing to see is the evolution of war. At heart he is a liberal masquerading as one of those centrist so it's no surprise that he thinks we are despicable in our actions.

    I will have more on the land mines later on.
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  7. Then make it clear. What exactly are you talking about? I'm not as dumb as you think I am.

    Did you even read my post, Jethro? Who used the word despicable? NOBODY. I said perfectly clearly that I have no issues with our being ruthless at war and that we are as ruthless as anybody. The issue I had was with phony patriots claiming that we always "play fair", which is horseshit.
  8. I served my country dipshit. Nothing phony about me. Currently awaiting an OCS board.

    Fair has a context. Something you clearly understand.
  9. You know @red55 I really don't like the word "fair" I think it is misplaced here. So let's say we skirt the line of what is allowed or "legal". Do we make it blurry at times? Sure we do. I'm not a historian nor do I have knowledge of what was taught to our Soldiers in the 30's but I'd have to believe ethical behavior was always stressed.

    I do know that there are many accounts of our troops doing the right thing and a few like the Marine regiment that was cutting off the ears of the Vietnamese. Whole damn regiment got wiped out. 3rd I think it was.

    Bottom line, yeah we ruin a lot of days, we just do it with class. Usually
  10. Easy now.