Andy Pettitte a hall of famer?

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  1. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Dude is pitching crazy this year 5-0 with a 1.79 ERA.

    Projected to be anywhere from 245-250 wins after this season and if he can come back next season he probably tops the 260 mark.

    With being the most prolific starting pitcher in playoff history (in terms of wins), is that enough to get him in?

    Bert Blyleven is still waiting with 287 wins and I suspect will finally get in within the next 2-3 years.

    At some point the voters have to get off the 300 mark in wins as the tipping point for getting in.

    Pedro Martinez won't get to 250 wins and he surely should get in.
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Andy Pettite is a definite hall of famer. At least i would vote for him, and i hate the Yankees.
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I think he is, but doesn't he have the steroid thing around his neck?
     
  4. HatcherTiger

    HatcherTiger Freedom Isn't Free

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    This guy says Andy not making it to the HOF may have to do with the 3 years he spent in Houston rather than his steriod use although that is a factor:

    Andy Pettitte's Hall of Fame Hopes | Baseball by the Numbers

    The writer also makes the point that AP has had a better career than Ron Guidry. I haven't analyzed their stats but just having lived through Louisiana Lightening's hey day as a Yankee, I'm not sure that statement is accurate. Guidry won a Cy Young Award in 1978 and I believe that he finished second another year.
     
  5. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    I thought about that but he came clean (or so we think) and it was supposedly only HGH, not steroids.

    In the court of public opinion, he has been exonerated. I am pretty sure the voters will follow suit.
     
  6. HatcherTiger

    HatcherTiger Freedom Isn't Free

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    Yes he did apologize:

    Baseball's Steroid Era » Video » Andy Pettitte Apologizes After Mitchell Report

    But why hedge? "I didn't do it to get an edge, I did it to get off of the DL ... blah, blah, blah" Just say you were wrong and thats it. Don't make excuses or try to justify what you did. It really doesn't matter why you did what you did, IT WAS THE WRONG THING TO DO NO MATTER WHAT AND YOU KNEW THAT! Man up and be done with it!

    On another topic, Roger Clemens has been spotted on the planet Mars. ( Word on the street is that he got kicked off of Uranus for making an @ss of himelf. )
     
  7. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    wow, talk about a weird argument.

    His ERA was better during those 3 Astro years (I think somewhere about 3.5 or maybe even a little better) than his career average (somewhere about 3.8-3.9). You could argue that he should have won the Cy Young in 05. Him missing the 2004 season had nothing to do with being in Houston, unless there is something in the water there that causes cronic elbow problems. Not sure.
     
  8. TexasTigers

    TexasTigers Are You With Me ?

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    Wasnt Pettitte born in Womans Hospital in Baton Rouge.
    Someone told me that once.
     
  9. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    He lists Baton Rouge as his birth place, don't know which hospital though.

    I would vote him in.

    Only other lefties I can think of better than him in my lifetime was Randy Johnson and Tom Glavine (unless I'm forgetting someone).
     
  10. P&G_wheelz007

    P&G_wheelz007 Football anyone?

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    He's in for multiple reasons (IMO):

    1 - His record in the Playoffs: 18-9.
    2 - He was a core member of that Yankee's dynasty
    3 - His career record is what, 234 - 136?

    :crystal::geaux::crystal::geaux::crystal:
     

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