Attrition

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  1. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    This is why they should have kept their mouths closed until all the details were worked out. They must have changed their articles at least 3 times by now. :dis:
     
  2. Bayou Tiger

    Bayou Tiger Founding Member

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    Okay, thanks. I know you're up to snuff on recruiting just thought since it was a couple of hours after your post the story may have come true. I hope they work something out.
     
  3. Bayou Tiger

    Bayou Tiger Founding Member

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    He's going to end up at Tennessee.
     
  4. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    OK, so now we know that early enrollees can't count back to the previous class if the previous class is at the 85 team limit. So players (like Porter) are left holding the bag. Teams are left holding the bag also because if they're under the 85 team limit, for some reason, they can't fill the class up because they have to leave a cushion for early enrollees to be counted back on.

    If the intent of this rule is to prevent oversigning, then it's an effective rule....BUT, if the intent of the rule is to protect players from undue attrition, then it's a failure. After all, like BHelm said, walkons are now pretty much out of scholarships now and non starting scholarship players who are less valuable to the team are going to be subject to loss of scholarships causing the same excess attrition that the rule is designed to prevent.

    Looks like someone in the NCAA office had too much time on their hands and should have been daydreaming instead of thinking about fixing wheels that aren't broken. Maybe the NCAA office is over staffed and they need to have some attrition of their own.
     
  5. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    They were busy greasing up USC for the prison shower scene.
     
  6. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    FWIW, Volquest is now reporting they are not going after him.

    They seem like his best option IMO but maybe they have other plans in the 2011 class. IDK

    Other teams I have heard are FSU, AU, and Miss St.
     
  7. Hawker45

    Hawker45 Founding Member

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    Here's a site where one can keep up with oversignings..... oversigning.com.... catchy, dontchathink???

    Oversigning.com

    According to the site, LSU is still nine over....
     
  8. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Pretty good site...


    "Porter goes on to make it clear that he understands now that football is just a business at LSU (see his comments after the jump). The fact that these kids are being conditioned to think that college football is just a business is only going to lead to further problems down the road. College football is not supposed to be a business, at least not according to the NCAA:
    The NCAA espouses a collegiate model of athletics in which student-athletes participate in varsity sports as an avocation, balancing their academic, social and athletics experiences.
    The NCAA is committed to the highest levels of integrity and sportsmanship, diversity and inclusion, amateurism, competitive equity and excellence in the classroom. The Association also believes in presidential leadership as the guiding force in operating athletics programs.
    Sorry but we don't see anything in there about college athletics being a business. Note to the NCAA: Elliott Porter was screwed out of his scholarship because of the loophole in YOUR by-laws that allows coaches to accept more signed letters of intent then they legitimately have room for under the 85 scholarship limit. YOUR loophole allows coaches to hedge their bets against academic attrition and injuries, essentially giving coaches free rein to gamble with the scholarship numbers."




    BUT....

    The author of the article uses the NCAA vision statement (or whatever that dribble is) as proof that LSU is not in step with NCAA philosophy when, in fact, it exposes the highest hypocracy of the NCAA when their statement refers to the "highest levels of integrity" or sports as an "avocation".


    This is the same NCAA corporation that bends over making rules and changing rules that insure that athletes receive absolutely no compensation from the billions of dollars that their efforts produce in direct and indirect revenue.


    NCAA football IS a business....for NCAA,inc. , the sports networks, the merchandizers, the ticket brokering websites, recruiting websites, etc...




    ...for everybody that is but the players; whom NCAA bylaws legislate into economic slavery or, as they put it " a collegial avocation that balances their academic, social and athletic experiences.
     
  9. LSUDad

    LSUDad Veteran Member

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    From the movie North Dallas Forty:

    The Bulls play for an iconic coach who turns a blind eye to anything that his players may be doing off the field or anything that his assistant coaches and trainers condone to keep those players in the game. As one player finally erupts to a coach: "Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. And every time I call it a business, you call it a game."

    Thought you would enjoy...:thumb:
     
  10. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Another reason he why Porter was likely asked to greyshirt is because he recently had minor knee surgery.

    Visiting Oregon on Monday and may visit a couple of other places. Kentucky is in the picture.

    Missing valuable time now if he wants to participate in any fall practices. Therefore, I see the chances of him staying at LSU increasing the longer this plays out.
     

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