Started reading through this thread late night... Can't believe all the confusion but hopefully I can clear some of it up.. This is roughly what has happened as far as the bowls..... - An extra BCS game has been added - The extra BCS game would get a non-BCS team and an at-large BCS team and will be played at the site of the BCS National Championship game. For Example, as it is right now... The year that the Sugar Bowl hosts the NC game.. Suppose Michagan and Oklahoma were 1 & 2. Well then obviously an SEC team would not get to play in the Sugar. Well in the new system. Take the same assumption, Michigan & Oklahoma are 1 & 2. The Sugar Bowl has the NC game AND the extra/new BCS game. Just as in the current cae, the Sugar bowl would have NO conference tie-ins that year because it is host of NC game. This applies to BOTH games played at the Sugar Bowl site that year. Take the Rose Bowl for instance... Three years in a row, the Rose bowl would have its traditional Pac 10/ Big 10 matchup (unless there is a media darling groomed to play in the BCS NC game........). Every four years it would host the 1/2 NC game and the additional BCS game. NO if Usc were #1 it would NOT play the first game then a week later play in the next BCS NC game. There are NO conference tie-ins to the Rose bowl site during the year it hosts the NC game, for either of the two games. I hope this is clear... but basically all that has changed is that a 5th BCS bowl has been added. This extra bowl will be played a week apart/earlier than the BCS NC game. This extra bowl would matchup an at-large BCS team with a non-BCS conference team (if one finishes in the top 12 of the BCS). Another illustration... LSU goes 9-3... LSU wins SEC Championship game. Sugar Bowl is host site for BCS NC game. LSU would end up playing in either the Rose, Fiesta, or Orange Bowl. LSU would have no tie-in to Sugar that year and would not end up in some "mini-Sugar Bowl" and play a team like Boise St. :lsup: :champs: :geaux: Edit: Oh, the big deal with the Rose Bowl was... It felt it was better and more traditional to keep its beloved Pact 10/Big 10 matchup and because of it kept threatening to leave the BCS system. What would happen is one or more of the other BCS bowls would snag the Big 10 champ, Pac 10 champ, or both (when they were not the BCS 1 and/or 2 teams) before teh Rose Bowl got a chance to pick (OH DAMN what a travesty). Thus, the Rose Bowl would rarely get its Big 10 Champ/Pac 10 Champ matchup. Well with the new agreement, in those years that both those champs are not BCS 1 or 2, and the Rose is not the BCS NC game site, the Rose Bowl has permission to automatically choose the Big 10 and Pac 10 champs right off the back, thus being guaranteed getting its wonderful beloved exciting traditional heartwarming media bonanza of a matchup.......
But...this does nothing to clear up the "who's #1 and who's #2? THAT was the problem. The only ones who gave a crap about letting in a coalition team was the TooLame and TCUs of the world. Methinks the inmates are running the asylum here.
more confused than ever. here is my question. what if Georgia has a BCS ranking of #7 but say TCU has a ranking of #8, does TCU get the extra bid because they are out of BCS or does Georgia because they are ranked higher. Sounds a little like affirmative action in the BCS equation
If you have a system that needs a few improvements you are supposed to make the changes for the better. The BCS system has the bus in reverse and the pedal to the floor headed quickly in the wrong direction. These guys have their heads shoved so far up the Bowls bowels that they have no clue of what the majority of fans want nor what would be best for NCAA football. It is truely sad to watch these guys fumble the ball year after year leaving both fans and football tams scratching their heads and wondering what the hell is going on. :dis: :dis: :dis: :dis: :dis: :dis: :dis: :dis:
That is what makes me sick about the whole thing. We were told initially that they would never have a NC game a week later because they don't want to extend the season and hurt the "student athlete." Now, they have done a complete 180 on that point, added a NC game a week later, and the system STILL has the exact same flaws related to the NC game as before. On top of all that, now they are talking about taking strength of schedule and the computers out of the BCS equation, and going back to the poll system, the same system that caused the creation of the BCS in the first forking place !!!!! The ONLY thing that is accomplished by taking SoS out is that it hurts the powerhouse conferences and gives a HUGE advantage to teams like USuCk that play PANSIES all year long and then toot their horn about how great they are !!!!! Dammit, now I have to go throw up again.
No it wouldn't hurt the rose bowl. If that as you put it "suck-ass PAC-10 team" is UCLA, USC, Cal, ASU, Arizona, Stanford, OSU, Oregon, WSU, and Wash. it would mean a sellout. Don't some of you guys get it. A Pac Ten-Big Ten Rosebowl means a sellout and good tv ratings. A 10-1 TCU versus 10-1 Iowa would draw less attention and people than 9-2 UCLA versus 10-1 Iowa or Minnesota or MSU.
I thought Southerners were all for tradition and traditional ways and values. It's also about tv ratings and sellouts which a big ten and pac ten match-up guarantees for the Rose Bowl. Yes, even a 9-2 USC and a 9-2 Michigan State means a sellout and good tv ratings, in most years second highest behind the BCS title game and before BCS days the usual ratings champ even when the other bowl games claimed to have the national championship game.
They are not having the NC championship game a week later. The new/extra BCS game will be played a week earlier, around Christmas time, at the site of the BCS NC game. Thus allowing for the main BCS bowl to play the game at its traditional New Year's time.
If Georgia is the SEC champ (hahahaha no way ), then it would get an automatic BCS berth. If not, then like any other team Georgia has a chance at an at-large BCS berth. However, in the extra game, the BCS is required to take a non-BCS conference team IF it finishes within the top 12 of the BCS. However, since this is a new game, that also means the new BCS game opens up a new slot/chance for an additional at-large BCS conference team (two additional if no non-BCS conference teams are in top 12).
