Tigernator, your last post proves my point exactly! you have to take the season as a whole, not just how a team finishes. That' why the BCS worked. The problem is you have people who don't want to play by the rules. Actually human polls vs the computer polls is like comparing apples to oranges. Both are fruit but with different results. If you're gonna use a system that includes both of them, then a middle ground has to be reached, and that is what the BCS does. If you (the AP) don't want to follow the rules, don't be part of the system. GEAUX TIGERS!!!! :geaux: :helmet: :lsug: :helmet: :geaux:
Would you be saying the same thing if LSU didn't finish in the top 2? In fact, most here were dogging the BCS the entire time ... until we leap frogged USC. The system DOES NOT WORK because the NCAA doesn't recognize LSU as its national champion!
TigerWins, yes I would be saying the same thing because if you are going to play by the rules, and the rules apply to everyone, then you have to accept that sometimes things don't go your way. Fortunately for LSU this year, things worked out our way. I would have been disappointed to have missed it by so little but, hey, that's the way the system works and if you are going to use the system, then so be it. What I would have REALLY been upset about was if we had missed it based on sos because Troy St. and Marshall pulled out at the last minute forcing us to schedule ULM and WI and they would not have had to suffer for it. The NCAA doesn't recognize USC as it's national champion either! There is no official NCAA Championship in D-1 football! GEAUX TIGERS!!! LSU, 2003, BEST IN THE NATION AND THE SEC!!! :geaux: :helmet: :lsug: :helmet: :geaux:
Some things will definately be changed, you can take that to the bank...because back when they had senate hearings on the matter Orin Hatch told the BCS committee "I strongly suggest you take steps to make this system more fair, or we as congress will have to get involved". That is as strong a statement as he can make, more like a threat actually - change your shit or we will.
Now all Hatch has to do to back up his threats is to get another 50 Senators and a majority of the House to go along with him. Hatch is from Utah. he probably said what he did because after a halfway decent season the president or chancellor of Utah State bitched to him about how unfair :cry: it was that they had no shot at playing the Big Boys for Big Bucks in a BCS bowl.Don't think for a second that the university presidents in states with big time football don't have at least as much influence with the politicians in their states. Will the politicians in Texas go against the BCS because it favors Texas, A&M and Texas Tech over TCU? Will the politicians in Ohio go against the BCS because the system favors Ohio State over Miami, OH or Toledo? Will the politicans in Alabama go against the BCS because the system favors Alabama an Auburn over UAB?
You are naive my man, they aren't going to have to pass a new law, just subject the NCAA football rules/BCS committee to existing antitrust laws - which it is exempt from at the moment.
Do you really think that has a snowballs chance in hell of happening ? The politicians in not only the big states with large populations and several major college football programs but also the politicos in smaller states with big time football will never allow money that flows to their states flagship programs to be reallocated to lesser programs by a act of administrative decree.
What act? We are talking about a small Senatorial committee which can call for an antitrust investigation into any business or entity they wish - at their whim. Every member up there agreed something needed to change, quickly, and after a public warning to make something happen I doubt they'd take kindly to the BCS comm. spitting in their face (a la Martha Stewart - who is now standing trial for a crime no one has every been tried for...ever). It is not that they can force change through a law, it is that they can force change due to intimidation. The BCS, nor the NCAA, would like a public investigation, or even a hearing, regarding the possible antitrust violations that these Senators have already said they see as possible avenues of investigation in the future.
I'm not arguing with you any longer...this is pointless, the people who can make this happen have already gone on the record as saying they will pursue this unless something changes (not a playoff, but some change). Something is going to change, one way or another, if you disagree then we just can agree to disagree - one way or another we'll see when the current contract runs out.
Below is a good compromise between the existing bowl system and a better way to crown a national champion. I think everyone would come out ahead under this system: 1) BCS system is tweaked yet again: -- Add back margin of victory (set a cap if desired) -- No polls that are part of the BCS can be released prior to the first weekend of the season that the BCS rankings are released, which should be sometime in November ideally. 2) 2 of the 4 BCS bowls would host #1 vs. #4, and #2 vs. #3, in a New Year's day double-header. A third BCS bowl would host the winners of those games a week later. 3) In order to qualify for the championship game, you must play in a conference that has at least 12 teams and a championship game, and you must win that championship game. (And you must finish in the top 4 of all conference champions, of course). So what would the above items accomplish? First, 3 out of the 4 BCS bowls would have more "important" games each year. In other words in a typical year only one BCS bowl game gets "the big game" that determines the national champion. Under the above system 2 additional BCS bowls would have a big role to play in the championship picture. Second, it would officially eliminate the two-tier system we have now, known as BCS conferences and non-BCS conferences. Instead, we'd have conferences that have 12 teams and a championship game, and conferences that don't. So theoretically C-USA, MAC, etc. all could have their conference champions play for the national title. Third, the conference championship games would become de-facto playoff games in many respects. Fourth, it gives all schools a clear set of guidelines to follow in order to qualify... join a conference with a championship game, play well enough against a decent schedule, and you have a legitimate chance of making the playoffs. Now in some years it may be the general consensus that only 2 or 3 teams "deserve" a chance at the national championship. I say that if those 2 or 3 teams are so much better than the #4 team, then the #4 team won't have much of a chance to win. Each year you can find teams that make the backetball tournament, NFL playoffs, NBA playoffs, etc. that may not "deserve" to have the chance, but it usually all works itself out at the end.
