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  1. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    I should rather say that this solar energy farm will impact the environment where it is build and this land Bundy's cattle is on will help mitigate that impact. His cows are in the way.
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    My only issue is why the government needs so much of the land.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It seems like something bound to cause them trouble for sure, but the motivation is income. BLM can then lease mining rights, grazing rights and would own the mineral rights.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    A braided stream bottom is entirely unsuitable for solar farming.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Two reasons. Land is income for the government. Its the best way to maintain what open country we have remaining, lest it all become suburbia.
     
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    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    The land being used for the project is 30 something miles away. The area in this rancher's dispute is in the environmental mitigation zone.
     
  7. GregLSU

    GregLSU LSUFANS.com

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    Part of the issue is also, all of this land he's open grazing his cattle on was all State land for a long time until the Federal Gov't redistricted something like hundreds of thousands of acres of land, and this land fell in that area. His family has been open grazing on this land for over a century.

    Bundy claims to have paid State and County officials for grazing fees, but does not recognize the Feds as a lawful land owner there, so claims he does not owe the Feds any money. He has said he would be willing to pay the money to the State or the County, but not the Feds.

    But in all seriousness, where's the need for heavily armed federal tactical teams, and snipers of all people to get the job done peacefully. There are other routes to collect the money the Feds say he owes without putting heavily armed troops on his property. And according to Harry Reid this show ain't over.

    Bunch of pussy fucks, Syria gasses their people, and our Admin says there's a red line and doesn't do shit. Russia invades a country, we sanction a few kolache eating fat asses, and again this Admin does nothing, even though Putin ain't slowing down.

    An American owes what the Feds say is $1M in fines for open grazing cattle, and our Gov't sends in snipers and tactical teams to steal cows, and intimidate Bundy and other protesters.

    Anyone else seeing our Liberal leadership as a bunch of impotent pussy bullies?
     
  8. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    He should have paid his fees on time since 1993 to avoid being $1.something million in arrears. But that would not remedy the current situation. BLM wants him off the land to provide a home for displaced tortoises and other critters due to Harry's solar farm scheme. That is the story that no one is talking about.

    "The suite of potential mitigation actions
    were generated by soliciting
    proposals from the public and
    from BLM staff in the district. The
    proposals included:
    • Restoring disturbed land in
    several ACECs and one national
    conservation area in the vicinity
    of the Dry Lake SEZ.
    • Preventing further degradation
    in several ACECs and one
    national conservation area in the
    vicinity of the Dry Lake SEZ.
    • Acquiring private land in the
    vicinity of the Dry Lake SEZ and
    managing it for conservation
    values. "


    The areas of proposed mitigation:


    "• Gold Butte ACEC.
    • Mormon Mesa ACEC.
    • Coyote Springs ACEC.
    • Piute-Eldorado Valley ACEC.
    • Coyote Springs ACEC, plus
    adjacent lands as proposed by
    the The Nature Conservancy. "

    The Las Vegas RMP also
    specifies the resource constraints of
    the Gold Butte ACEC, which include:
    • Closed to mineral entry, sale, and
    leasing, except for fluid minerals
    under certain circumstances.
    • Closed to grazing.
    • Managed for wild burros at an
    appropriate management level
    of 98 animals.
    • Off-road vehicle use limited to
    existing roads and trails.
    • Closed to off-road vehicle events.
    • Right-of-way avoidance.


    http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf


    Now you see what the real issue is here.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Untrue. He threatened military action and Syria backed down. Half of their WMD's are gone already and the rest is headed out. Syria is an enemy and they are caught up in a civil war killing each other, which great news for us and Israel.

    More bullshit. We are not the world's policeman. Ukraine is not one of our allies and we are not going to war over them. Not one fucking republican advocates doing anything more than the President has done.

    Not at all. Take off your blinders. Obama has hit Al Qaeda hard and frequently in four countries, devastating their leadership and finances. He helped topple Qadaffi in Libya with air strikes, backed Assad way from his WMD's, takes no shit from Pakistan, takes no shit from Karzai, and kills Somali pirates. And bin Ladin.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The real issue is still one rancher's refusal to recognize the country that he lives in. Tens of thousands of American ranchers, timbermen, and miners pay for grazing, timber, and mineral rights to federal land. Is there some reason that the law shouldn't apply to him?
     

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