BP Gulf Oil Spill

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  1. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    " PEMEX claimed that half of
    the released oil burned when it reached the surface, a third of it evaporated,
    and the rest was contained or dispersed."

    if they were telling the truth then its apples and oranges.

    IncidentNews: Countermeasures/ Mitigation

    and unfortunately ....

    "And the experience of Mexico's state oil company Pemex shows that relief wells are no silver bullet.

    Ixtoc, off the coast of the southeastern Mexican state of Campeche, continued to leak oil more than three months after Pemex completed its first relief well."

    BP's Gulf battle echoes monster '79 Mexico oil spill | Reuters
     
  2. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    Morgan City sits behind a 20-foot floodwall, seen below during the high water season:

    http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/d/DocNDswamp/10.jpg

    The row of pilings sticking up out of the water represents the end of the wharf. That's probably only about a foot of water coming up over the side.

    The wall is our protection from a major spring flood. (The old 6-foot wall was topped by the water in 1973 and most of the city was flooded for quite awhile). I would not want to place bets on how well we'll be protected when (not if) the Mississippi changes course. But even if the wall handles the water, the backwater flooding will get us.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Probably so. I expect the Big River would try to commandeer the Wax Lake cut through the Teche Ridge which might spare Morgan City the impact of a river 3 times the size of the Atchafalaya impinging directly on a headland and a seawall that cannot withstand it. But it would still take a massive ring levee to protect MC from back water flooding. Might be cheaper to relocate the city.
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Never EVER link to that phychotic lesbian, Rachel Maddow. I now have to spend time cleaning vomit off my keyboard. Thank you for your sipport.
     
  5. mctiger

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    I can remember economists saying the same thing about New Orleans when they were forecasting the effects of The Big One (pre-Katrina). Just makes me wonder; has that ever been done in modern times?
     
  6. OkieTigerTK

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    i think maybe with a couple of small towns along the upper mississippi, but im not even sure about that.
     
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    sort of, by the chinese, because of the three gorges dam.

    Three Gorges Dam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Relocation of local residents

    During the planning stages in the 1990s it was estimated that 1.13 million residents would be forced to relocate; the final number (as of June 2008) ended up being 1.24 million, after the last town (Gaoyang in Hubei Province) was relocated.[73][74] This number is about 1.5% of the total population of Hubei Province (60.3 million) and Chongqing City (31.44 million) where the reservoir is located.[75] About 140,000 residents were relocated out of Hubei province to eastern provinces and some central provinces; most of the remaining people were relocated within Hubei Province.[76] The relocation project was completed on July 22, 2008.[74] On October 11, 2007, Chinese state media announced that under a development plan of Chongqing city, an additional four million people will be encouraged to move from their homes near the dam to the Chongqing metropolitan area by the year 2020.[77][78][79]"
     
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    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    That's an amazing thing to consider; relocating 1.24 million people. I wonder how you plan, fund and construct the infrastructure needed to support that many people so quickly. Cities don't just pop up; they evolve over decades. Of course we're talking about China, and the level of infrastructure is probably far less complex than what we're used to here.

    There is a small community of native Americans in South Terrebonne Parish...I'm sure Nooch could tell their story better than me. No more than 2 dozen or so families, and the island has eroded to the point that they've been talking for some time about relocating to just south of Houma. But even with that small a group, they can't get everyone to agree to go.
     
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