Not if you make them subcontractors. Or perhaps allow them to build casinos on soverign caribou reservations.
Certainly this is true. So how many refineries have been proposed by oil companies and denied permits based on opposition by environmental groups and local governments in the last 30 years? Just the one you cited that recently received it's permit? And how many oil companies have not proposed any new refineries?
You are not fully aware of the facts there. Did you know that was the ONLY permit request made since 1975 and it was approved? The largest oil companies have been "acquiring" the smaller companies over the past 20+ years and shutting down smaller refineries. The oil market is becoming less and less competitive. Adding to this is the steady flow of mergers we have seen. Oil companies have simply not requested permits for new refineries. The one you mentioned is a joint venture by groups of private investors who are out to prove a point. Read up more about them.
Actually, BP confirmed today that they had not done inspections on this particular pipeline in 16 years. Here's what the White House press secretary had to say today: > link <
and what might those indicators be? taking a look inside the pipes seems to be a prudent preventative measure.
Again the Bushnwhite houe is full of ****. So that is what you want more regulation on producing oil in america. No wonder we have to be so reliable on foriegn oil. Much cheaper and no one in your business. Either the pipelines were regulated and suppose to have gauge pigs run "every other week" are they were unregulated. Can't have it both ways GW via TS. They spun it A gauge run interior has not been done in 16 years. Technology allows them to do interior inspections without getting inside. Poor public gets the wool pulled over there eyes by a press conference because they get the ears tickled. I have been in the oilfield a long time and this is the first I hear of having to run a gauge pig as the idiot called it every other week. On regulated lines let alone unregulated. Do you know what this means to every producing oilfield in america. If you don't likeprices at the pump now get ready.:cuss:
Yes, I knew that. But what does that have to do with tougher environmental laws? Are you denying that to be true? More laws and regulations cost businesses more money. We've gone from one extreme to another. We didn't give a damn about the environment 30+ years ago. Now, we can't build anything because we don't want to harm the environment. And those who try are met with resistance and lawsuits. We can't have it both ways. We don't want more drilling, refineries, power plants, etc., but we want cheap energy. The two simply don't add up. Yes, it's called running an efficient business. Prices were low in the 80s and 90s, so you buy smaller companies and consolidate. You don't build things you don't need. Makes the shareholders (like me) very happy. What point are the investors trying to prove? That an environmental group will fight them? If so, the point was proven. What point is this Refinery Reform Campaign group trying to make?
How? You mentioned the pipes being inspected from air. Obviously I am not familiar with the methods used.
They are making the point that a new refinery can be opened. That the reason new refineries have not been opened is because oil companies simply have not had any desire to open any. Enviromental laws are not preventing refineries from being opened. (Note: we're talking refineries here, not drilling) That's a myth you apparently have bought in to. I won't try to change your stance, just giving facts as I see them.
