Browns won't win with Quinn

islstl · May 6, 2007

TheDude said: ↑

The only objective and non-disputed fact from that article. I do love to hear about the incredible "planning" of Cleveland in regards to garnering both Thomas and Quinn in the first round. When actually "the plan" was, we are taking Thomas in the first round with the full knowledge that Miami would not let him pass. This is not in dispute. They even called Quinn the night before so he would not overly react on TV the next day. That was a pretty classy move from a team that considered you were not valuable enough to play for them.

Once Miami made the mistake(yes, it seems today like a mistake), then Cleveland realized they could get a well coached, over hyped qb for a fraction of the cost. The fact that Quinn ended up at Cleveland is not a break over being picked by the Raiders. They were the 3rd worst team in the league and have not made the offseason moves that Oakland has to improve their situation. And they are known for being a wasteland to drafted qb's as well. Quinn is close to home, so he has that going for him. He will still make plenty of $ in endorsements for the first year(until the browns fall), as the media will seek to vindicate themselves by propping him up again.

If you say the Raiders are a horrible organization, why have they been to 5 Superbowls, the last one in 2003? How many Superbowls have the Browns won? Oh yeah, never been to one, and the future doesn't look too bright. Good luck with that.

The reason Quinn catches so much crap is not out of envy of either him or of the domers, but simply because he is a paper warrior. You can try to make him out like he is the next Brett Farvre but it is unlikely to happen. Your facts are disputed, most people here have seen a great many of his games, and we are not impressed, and until Notre Dame really starts winning against quality opponents, many of their players will be suspect. See the draft...
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This is simply an outstanding post. At the very minimum.

bhelmLSU · May 7, 2007

bitter ND said: ↑

Only a few teams needed a QB. If a team is already set up with a QB, then it would be a waste to use a first round pick on a QB when you don't expect to use that QB.

From what the Browns gave up to trade for Quinn, its obvious that they thought he was the real deal or they wouldn't have given up so much for that pick. But, they had to because the Ravens were also trying to trade for Quinn.
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2. I think the more we hear from NFL teams that had more than a passing interest in quarterbacks in the recent draft, the more we understand that there was JaMarcus Russell and then there was the field. Brady Quinn was a lot closer to the Becks, Stantons and Kolbs than he was to Russell. "Look,'' Cam Cameron told me Sunday, "I like Brady Quinn. I think he's going to be a good quarterback in this league. But that doesn't mean we think he should be a top-10 pick.'' Logical reasoning. I think what happened here is the more we all talked about Brady, the more we thought he should have been in competition with Russell for the top pick. But not many teams at the top of the draft really felt that way.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/05/06/mmqb/3.html

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Browns won't win with Quinn

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