But, we're the evil ones....

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  1. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    The muslims take two prisoners during an attack, and instead of treating them fairly, they torture and execute them. Then, they brag about it.

    We are evil! We house our prisoners in "small" rooms. We feed them "inadequate" food. We allow them to practice their religion "with supervision". We clothe them. Sometimes, we even free them. Obviously, we are sinking to the level of our enemies. What will become of this great nation? :dis:

    Thank God, our leaders had the foresight to shackle and imprison those eight Marines, even though they have not been charged with a crime. They spent several days in solitary confinement, and were fed only bread and water. These young men are our countries hero's. And how do we repay them? We treat them worse than we do the enemies of our country.
     
  2. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Where we are failing to meet the conventions of the Geneva convention we should step up the efforts. We are the good guys, so we should follow the rules, and heaven forbid we free someone who is not a terrorist. The only ones getting freed are the ones that are definately not terrorists.


    A majority of the terrorists at gitmo have not been charged with any crime. Do you mind them being put in shackles and fed only bread and water?

    What is standard procedure for someone being investigated for a war crime? Do you agree that if Marines killed civilians indescrimately they deserve to be treated like terrorists?
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    There is one overriding unwritten rule concerning enemy prisoners--we treat prisoners the way we want our own prisoners to be treated. This is the way it has always worked with civilized people. If there are uncivilized criminals among our enemies torturing and murdering prisoners, then they are war criminals and subject to tribunal and execution after capture. If they make it that far.

    That is because there is another unwritten rule--uncivilized enemy criminals don't survive capture often. In WWII the German army and air force treated allied prisoners very well, with little abuse, Red Cross access, and fed them what they fed their own soldiers for the most part. We followed suit in our treatment of German prisoners.

    But after the Malmedy massacre when Nazi SS troops executed American POWs and left them in the snow, the second unwritten rule came into play. Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe prisoners continued to be treated fairly, but SS troops were no longer taken prisoner. They were not allowed to surrender and were shot wherever encountered. Films exist of US troops lining up handcuffed SS death camp guards and machine-gunning them by the dozen.

    The gloves have been off in this war for a while now and I suspect we will not be seeing many more captured hard-core terrorists, they will all be killed in the field and will be no further problem. A good friend's son is back from Iraq and he told us that they are taking some troublemakers and informers prisoner, but the hard-core insurgents . . . "we're killing the sh!t out of them--big time".

    It's just the way it is. The troops are getting a lot more payback than they are talking about.
     
  4. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    They are enemy combatants. They don't have to charged.......just like in WWII. Would you have released Nazi soldiers to return to the battle before the war was done? No, and neither will we with Gitmo. Those that can be charged, will be. The others who were captured in battle or planning attacks will rot until the war is done.

    I'll take what Red said a step further, hopefully we are getting the info we need from the ones we are fighting now, and then forcing them to assume room temp.
     
  5. Broke

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    Geneva convention is not going to be followed by the US anymore. I read a report the other day. That is if Congress approves (don't know if they have already).
     
  6. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    That's pretty much what I am saying. The only people getting out of Gitmo are people who are conclusively not terrorists. Those people should be let go. I have no problem with terrorists being held forever.

    I was just playing a little devil's advocate with salty.
     
  7. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    I gotcha.
     
  8. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    This is something that really irks me, when people (liberals) forget who the real enemy is & turn against America. I think one of the main reasons liberals are so vehemetly hated is because they are, probably rightfully so, viewed as being un-American.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The shabby treatment Salty was referring to was given out by the military authorities, not "liberals". You are confusing issues here.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    it seems like cparso is more anti-liberal these days than he used to be.
     

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