Caroll Rumors Rumbling... Say it ain't so!

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  1. TejasTiger

    TejasTiger Founding Member

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    I don't get why so many of you think it's ridiculous for Carroll to consider going to the NFL.

    The guy had a pretty damn tough gig in New England: following a great coach, trying to win with an aging team...more guys fail in that situation than succeed.

    No less than Bill Bellicheck himself struggled in his first HC gig. Writing off Pete so summarily is silly. Sure, you can say he's won with superior talent and with excellent assistant coaches (okay, not Carl Smith, who should never be mentioned in the same sentence as "excellent"), but great HCs are also great evaluators and managers of talent, both on their coaching staffs and in their starting lineups.

    I think Pete will do fine when he returns to the pros...and he will return. He'll succeed because his return will be on his terms, and I think the environment is a good one for him to make the jump after this season, especially with a Rose Bowl win.

    Only time will tell.
     
  2. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    Having the success that he has had while featuring two of possibly the worst football coaches ever (Carl Smith... QB coach) and Ed O (DLine/Recruiting coordinator) boggles the mind. This year it's time to leave. He's lost all of what made them great. Chow, Smith, and O are all gone. Leinart/Bush/White....gone.
     
  3. swoop

    swoop Founding Member

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    No way Benson ponys up enough money to get Petey. Not to mention the New Orleans Saints isnt a very attractive job for a coach of his rep. If it did happen, it would be for the L.A. Saints, not the LA. Saints and Benson would be absolutely no part of the team.
     
  4. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    Don't really care.. once the Saints leave N.O., I won't be watching any NFL games...
     
  5. HatcherTiger

    HatcherTiger Freedom Isn't Free

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    This is simply his way of communicating to owners through the media that if they want him as their coach he needs to have total control over personnel. No college coach in the middle of a season would begin to express interest in leaving their team after the season to go and coach the pros. He's just talking the talk, if some NFL team gives him enough control and money he is gone.
     
  6. Tygrr

    Tygrr Win the West

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    Nick said those same things.
     
  7. TejasTiger

    TejasTiger Founding Member

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    I wouldn't read anything of worth into his refusal to talk to the 49ers. The Yorks are quickly earning a reputation of being Bidwell and Brown-esque in being flat-out horrible, don't give a damn about winning-kind of owners.

    If Petey Carroll talks bad about not having full control as an NFL coach, that makes his return to the NFL after a "three-peat" even more sensible.

    Why? He'll have tremendous leverage in getting what Saban got in Miami: total control. Again, I'm calling my shot: Bob McNair may well play Wayne Huizenga to Pete Carroll playing Nick Saban and woo Pete to Texas. No team---no team---beats the Texans combination of state of the art facilities, excellent monetary backing and fan interest, and therefore will be considered by far the best available HC job of the bunch at season's end.

    Having the choice of making Matt Leinart or Reggie Bush--two guys he knows and trusts to work hard and do things his way--as his #1 pick has to appeal to him, too. Seriously, for nothing can ultimately bring down a HC and/or a GM faster than a botched #1 overall pick...just ask Dom Capers and Charlie Casserly after they, along with David Carr, are canned (or, in David's case, shopped in trade offers) this offseason.

    Pete Carroll is a competitor, and a fierce one at that. Surely even he knows that he can win 20 national titles in a row and still be regarded as only a great "college coach", someone who just couldn't cut it against the Bill Parcells (the man who preceded him) and the Bill Bellichecks (the man who follwed him) of the coaching universe.

    If he has any nuts at all, he will-like Saban-return to the pros someday to prove himself against the best of the best.
     
  8. TigerFan23

    TigerFan23 USMC Tiger

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    I have a hard time thinking of Fox Sports as a reputable sporting news source. Publishing a story like this further proves to me that they're morons.

    After all, it's Fox's fault we're going to have the BCS until 2009, unless they feel the urge to give up millions upon millions of dollars.
     

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