Colin Cowherd just LOVES New Orleans !!!

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  1. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    did some checking. nola (20.8/100,000) is about double any other pro sports town for murder if you use metro area (i think Baltimore is second with 10.3/100,000).

    but if you look at Violent crime or robbery. nola metro is lower than---orlando, philly, san fran, balt, sacramento, detroit, houston, memphis, miami, nashville, and sacramento.
     
    gumborue, May 25, 2012
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  2. b_leblanc

    b_leblanc That's just my game...

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    What's the demographic? Who's being murdered? Who's being robbed? Where's it happening? The stats are skewed.

    Can't sit here and say, "the entire city of New Orleans is the 'murder capitol' of the world or the US" or whatever else without doing actual research. Anyone with a mouse and an internet connection can google the phucking statistics. What KIND of people are being murdered? Are they professionals, such as physicians and attorneys? Are they plumbers, police officers, mechanics, business owners? Are they selling rocks? Bags of basil?

    What's the demographic? Where are all the killings taking place?
     
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  3. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    One thing that people keep saying that isn't particularly true about NOLA is that if you stay out of certain areas then you aren't in any real danger. That's true in just about every other big city, but New Orleans doesn't just have one or two large ghettos that are out of the way. The bad areas are sprinkled all around the city, really, and you're rarely more than 4 blocks from a ghetto. A big part of this is that the housing projects were scattered all around the city, which brought down blocks and blocks of areas around them. The Iberville projects are still occupied, and are located right in downtown, which does lead to a lot of crime against innocent victims in places like the Canal St area (remember that awful shooting at the McD's on Canal a couple of years back?). I'd say more than any other city, the "bad" areas are far less isolated and easily identifiable.

    I actually just finished reading "Carnival of Fury", which is about Robert Charles and the New Orleans race riot of 1900. It was very fascinating, and can provide some interesting insight into why the city has the problems that it does.
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It takes a lot of security to keep tourists safe in New Orleans. The last time I stayed at a Canal Street Hotel, there were armed hotel security guards in the parking lot across the Blvd, on the street between the lot and the hotel, walking the street on all sides of the hotel, not to mention at each doorway and in the lobby and ground floor hallways.

    It was an overt and major security presence. It makes some visitors feel safe and others feel creepy.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    This is very true. Locals know where to avoid, but it is impossible for visitors to know where the killing zones are. There are too many of them.

    I heard a story in the 1980's from a roofing contractor who worked with the company that put a new roof coating on the Superdome. He said that they discovered about 900 bullet holes in the old roofing material and 95% of it was on the side facing the nearest projects neighborhood. I've always wondered if it was from people taking potshots at the dome . . . or of it was just the normal projectile scatter from the projects.
     
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  6. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Yeah, my uncle actually replaced the Dome roof after Katrina. He had assessed it before that, but the way that he proposed to fix it was going to cost more than they wanted to spend. Anyway, he said the exact same thing about the bulletholes, but figures that they were from the New Years celebrations in the French Quarter when those idiots fire their guns into the air.
     
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  7. ehusson80

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    I, too, acknowledge the fact that NO has its fair share of violent crime and a very high murder rate. NO is not perfect, far from actually. I wouldn't consider myself as one who "ignores" or even sugar-coats the crime problem that our city has. I just can't stand it when people who aren't from here or even lived in this area trash talk NO, and hate it even more when locals stand on their soapbox and bad mouth NO when they have no intention or even any desire to try to make any sort of a difference. People who just want to act high and mighty and talk bad about NO and will do nothing to help better the city that I and many like myself love. I know it is very difficult, maybe even impossible, for one person to make a difference. If you talk trash about NO and will do nothing to even attempt to make a difference, I think that makes you a hypocrite, IMO. It's that type of self-richeous nonsense that infuriates me. Ok, now I will get off of my soapbox after criticizing other for doing the same thing. The difference is, IMO, that I am not bad-mouthing the city where I was born and raised. New Orleans is my home and I will and always have come to her defense. It is something I take great pride in. For those of you who have come to the defense of our great city, I commend you.
     
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  8. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    yes you can--the fbi does the research for you. good luck if you are only satisfied with comparing the rate of plumbers murdered though. nola residents are the most likely to get murdered of any city in the US. and its DOUBLE anywhere else---hard to argue that its not bad.
     
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  9. gumborue

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    yep. i was living there when a tourist (female from Boston i think) was killed that way in 95.
     
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  10. b_leblanc

    b_leblanc That's just my game...

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    It IS bad. I understand that. Seems the point of my post went completely over your head though. :)
     
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