Craig Loston, Freak Johnson go undrafted

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  1. furduknfish

    furduknfish #ohnowesuckagain

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    Cheet, you forget tigerfan's drunk rants. Jeckl
    Watched a 30/30 about pro-athletes getting fleeced by crooked agents/finmgrs. Pretty sad, even ones that dont blow it, lose out sometimes.
     
  2. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    Yep, checking your agent and business manager's background is extremely important. My friend lived in a subdivision outside the city with very moderate priced homes. And several Saints players including Devery lived on his street. They were all living within their means.Devery was likely the highest paid player and I'd bet a bunch that he is set for life with the money he made and how frugal he is.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Few degrees are valueless. General Studies is not a degree with no value. There are a lot of General Studies majors that are not athletes. It is actually a very good choice for students entering college without a good idea of what they want to do with their lives. It gives them a chance to check out many disciplines that they would not be able to if following a specialized curriculum. Graduate school is where the real specialized education happens anyway.
     
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  4. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    Maybe bad grades in English were a deterrent to his staying.*


    *had to correct my english
     
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  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    well look at this guy
     
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  6. lsu99

    lsu99 whashappenin

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    I didn't say valueless but rather minimal value.

    I think my bigger point is that I can understand how it would be human nature to mentally "check out" of going to classes when you are forced to take a major that the football coach tells you to take so that you don't have to worry about taking a difficult engineering class (for example) because it may interfere with practices.

    How many football players have flunked out over the past five years at the big SEC programs? I'm guessing it's a low number. I rarely hear about it at LSU these days. I'm also guessing there is a team at each university that develops a plan to keep all players eligible while only allowing them to get by with the bare minimum workload.

    I honestly don't know all of the specifics about LSU's program but talking more in general "big time program" terms. I know that LSU has a good engineering program. How many football players have received their degree in engineering over the past five years?
     
  7. lsu99

    lsu99 whashappenin

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    I found a couple of articles about recent LSU football players earning their degrees. Almost all of them were either in Interdisciplinary Studies or Sports Administration.

    Interdisciplinary Studies is a degree that allows the student to select their own courses and tailor their work load around their interests. To me, it sounds like a fancy term for doing the bare minimum. While this is only pure speculation, I'm going to say that this major does not adequately prepare you for getting a job in the real world.
     
  8. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    its obvious that coaches view the game as more important than education. education is only important because the ncaa enforces bare minimum standards. the entire system is rigged against education. what do you think the coaches would say if fournette wanted to have a real major and take a 2:30 lab in the fall?
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'm going to suggest that you are misinformed. It is true that one might tailor a degree to subjects that interest him and athletes are probably more interested in physical education and business than science and engineering. But there are minimum standards that must be met and universities do not just hand out degrees to people who have not met the standards. You still have to have required English, math, and science coursework.

    But far more students use Interdisciplinary Studies to craft a curriculum that just doesn't fit the standard models. A student that is interested in Physics and Music, for example. He could major in one discipline and take the other as electives but would not get degree credit for the work and it may take an extra year to graduate. But an IS major can get degree credit for widely different disciplines. Students interested in both Geoscience and Environmental Science often take the IS route and there is a job niche for such people.

    There are definitely jobs out there for them. Companies that need a specialist usually only hire people with graduate degrees anyway. Companies that routinely hire people with Bachelors degrees are often more interested in a candidate with a good all-around education and they intend to train them on the job for the work at hand.
     
  10. lsu99

    lsu99 whashappenin

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    I didn't see the recent program about North Carolina's football program but have heard people discussing it. Football players reading at 4th grade levels (or lower) that are able to get their degrees and other secrets of the program. Also, apparently the Dean (or President or whatever?) from North Carolina that was featured resigned due to death threats and overall "pro-sports" fanatics that didn't like that she told it like it was.

    I feel like you are deflecting the overall points that I'm making by talking about other jibberish. Sure, some of your points are valid. However, I'm talking about the overall subject that "student-athletes" are easily prone to mentally check out in their classwork because they have little to no say in what courses they are taking. How many football players have flunked out of LSU in the past five years? I can't imagine how I would have been able to get my degree while going through all of the demands of playing football. Some of these guys are probably reading at 4th grade levels like the UNC players. How do they do it?
     

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