Federal Judge - "Not so fast, my friend."

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  1. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    See, you are coming around.
     
  2. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    You are wrong. Obama has hung himself on his own petard. Look up "Severability".
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No, it is you that is wrong, as usual. Severability in contracts is not the same as severability in legislation. Look it up. :lol:

    From Wikipedia:

    Severability

    . . . Severability clauses are also commonly found in legislation, where they state that if some provisions of the law, or certain applications of those provisions, are found to be unconstitutional, the remaining provisions, or the remaining applications of those provisions, will, nonetheless, continue in force as law.
     
  4. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    If you think that bill/law is even remotely socialist, you have no idea what socialism really is...
     
  5. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    then what is socialist, then?

    if the government manages health insurance, and provides for people by redistributing money from some to others, then what is that called? capitalism?

    social security is called that because it is an explicitly socialist program. it is the collectivization of insurance for old people. that is socialist, by definition. it doesnt mean we as a nation are socialist. same thing with government management of health insurance. the government, the collective, should not be managing health insurance at all, not beyond preventing fraud and such.

    obviously we are a blend of socialism and capitalism, some things we do are definitely socialist.
     
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I know that this bill is crap and it is the proverbial "foot in the door" and it must be either repealed or altered so that it isn't so. It is grossly unfunded and boy look out when 2016 rolls around. Not to worry lad, if it doesn't get repealed congress will vote to not pay for it and it will die.
     
  7. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    You're not required to buy insurance for your employees until you have 25.
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Wrong again:

    Severability Clause at Heart of Judge Vinson's Ruling That 'Obamacare' Is Unconstitutional
     
  9. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    that's good to know.

    i wasnt sure what the law said about that, i just know if it did require me to buy for just a few, then it was gonna wreck me.
     
  10. hebertjp

    hebertjp Founding Member

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    I hope I am not wading into waters too deep but I had this one question that I wonder if anyone knows the answer to. Many states force their citizens to buy auto insurance or be subject to penalty. In what ways is this difference from the fed. govt. forcing citizens to buy health insurance? Is it a state vs. federal power thing? How is it that states have the power to require the purchase of auto insurance?
     

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