First half play selection.

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  1. TheRealist

    TheRealist GEAUX TIGERS

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    11 runs 11 passes.

    Lots of play action on first and second. One kneel down to end the half that I did not count.

    Can we stop the crap about running into 8 man fronts now?

    The only time Bama used an 8 man front was in the first series on first and second. First was a run for 2. Second was play action incomplete. Third was obvious passing down and a sack.They mixed the play calling up well. The biggest miss on the second series when Harris missed Fournette over the middle wide open.

    Second half coming up.
     
  2. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    Quote from Miles press conference:
    "For Leonard Fournette it certainly wasn't his fault in any way. We didn't get him loose. Safeties were making tackles and they were making them very close to the line of scrimmage."

    Because they were walking the safeties up at the last minute. Plus it was still run run throw deep it wasn't playcalling that helped the offense succeed. Hopefully your second half analysis is better.
     
  3. TheRealist

    TheRealist GEAUX TIGERS

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    Go watch the game again. I just did. They were not in 8 man fronts except the first series and later on obvious running downs in the second half goal line plays after the Bama fumble. I really could care less what Miles said.

    Would you have preferred to pass on every play? Because the truth is that the play calling was balanced. Harris could not execute the pass plays and the line couldn't open holes for the run game.
     
  4. TheRealist

    TheRealist GEAUX TIGERS

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    Second half:
    10 runs 12 passes
    More of the same from the first half. No holes for the run game except the 18 yarder after the fumble. Harris was unable to connect with receivers on short and intermediate routes except for a few. Again, the playcalling was balanced. Bama just did a good job at defending what we wanted to do.

    The two major problems I see are not using the short and intermediate passing game before Saturday. Miles said earlier in the week they wouldn't ask Harris to do anything he hadn't already done. Well, those short and medium passes have not been used all year so there you go.

    Also, lack of front seven depth. They held up well all things considered. At least until the last drive by Bama. They were spent and we're just on the field way too long. You could see it starting to take its toll early in the third. Missed tackles and poor angles leading to big gains. It finally cracked on that last drive.
     
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  5. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    Yes the playcalling was balanced between shitty and extra shitty. Again, look at what Bama called that's what Miles should have been doing and Hell yes you should be doing it from game one. I never have bought the bullshit some spout every season about hiding the playbook until you get to a game where you need it.
     
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  6. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    and we should have called play action every time that walked the safeties up, oh yea, the time we did, we scored. Harris was the reason we were in the game at the half. Yes he was poor in other spots, but without him its a blowout.
    im just quoting you because you made an important point about Bama's defense
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The quarterback has to read blitzes or safeties creeping up and burn them with quick passes to areas they just vacated. Harris just can't do it. Defenses have picked up on the plays all coming in from the sidelines with the QB checking off poorly, if at all. Harris did show a couple of good passes, but 31% won't cut it in big games.
     
  8. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    Play action and chunking it long is not what backs off safeties... Intermediate crossing routes are what keeps safeties back and pulls linebackers into coverage. The fact that the discussion here is about two options: run it up the gut or playaction to a deep post exemplifies the simplicity of Les Miles' offense strategy and why its so easy for Saban to counter it.
     
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  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    You must not have watched it very closely.

    https://twitter.com/dellengeradv/status/663477620995186688

    Here's LSU in shotgun with Eddie Jackson creeping in late as the 9th man.

    As twisted said, Eddie Jackson coming up as the 8th man late most of the time LSU was in the I. As this picture below shows.

    https://twitter.com/dellengeradv/status/663463481388101632

    What game did you watch again?
     
  10. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    There's a big difference between calling run vs pass plays and calling run vs pass plays that give your team a chance to succeed.
     
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