Hate to bring up race issues, but...

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  1. HittinZX2

    HittinZX2 Living to die laughing

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    I wish everybody was green so we wouldn't have to worry about stupid issues like this. Hiring based on race is stupid and no one in their right mind would do something like this if they really cared about their program. Regardless of race if the coach is a winner he will get a job.


    Does anyone know the statistics on how many black coaches they have in the NCAA? (not just head coaches)
     
  2. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    Dont have the statistics but i know that the number of black assistants has increased dramatically over the last few years... im sure the race card will be played on that one too... that blacks have to be kept subserviant to white head coaches... everyone has to pay their dues.. im gonna go play the world's smallest violin now for the BCA
     
  3. QBLuke

    QBLuke Hickey Da God

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    Agreed, is it really necessary to have these guys be brought in for token interviews that probably won't lead to their hire? I agree that there should be equality in all of this, but seriously, if you have Steve Spurrier wanting to coach for you, there is no interview process necessary. These guys are expecting too much if they think South Carolina is not going to jump on a chance to land the biggest profile coach there is. Hiring Spurrier immediately raises the level of their program, why would they hesitate to do that? I agree Black coaches should get a fair shake, but it is stupid to usher them in one by one so they can have a token interview when everybody knows Spurrier is the man for the job.
     
  4. Dr. Torgo

    Dr. Torgo Founding Member

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    Perhaps some of you should have read the entire article. The BCA is angry that SC didn't respond to their inquiries about the coaching search. They didn't have a problem with Spurrier being hired, but teams (such as Ole Miss) usually consult with them, or, at the very least, return their phone calls!

    Also, it's funny how everyone hates so-called "special interest groups", unless it's an organisation that promotes ideas that they believe in. Those suddenly become worthwhile organisations.

    Christ, at least read articles before lambasting them.

    Oh, and Happy Chanukah!
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I did read the entire article and it does not satisfactorily explain why the BCA is entitled to a consult. Certainly, if a school is canvassing the country for a coach, the BCA is an excellent resource for getting info on available (black) coaches but I do not understand why the BCA feels they are somehow in the "chain of command". There is no law, or NCAA rule, that the BCA must be consulted during a coaching search. They are simply using the threat of pulling out the race card in order to intimidate schools into "consulting" with them before conducting affairs that are none of the BCA's damn business.
     
  6. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    I agree completely with SabanFan. The "consulting" part of the article turned my stomach. Why on earth would SC consult with the BCA when Spurrier wanted the job?
     
  7. tiger fan 2001

    tiger fan 2001 Founding Member

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    EXACTLY.
     
  8. rickyd

    rickyd Founding Member

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    I wanted to make sure I had all my facts straight before I responded to your post, so I did a Google search for the "White Coaches Association" for their response on the subject. Too my surprise Google can't find any such association, so I suppose this will just have to be another one sided arguement.

    Maybe we can rehash this subject again during the halftimes of the Black College Championship game and the White College Championship game, should make for an interesting discussion. :thumb:
     
  9. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    Organizations like the BCA are good in a way as they did need to help try and get black coaches promoted to head coaches, the amount of black head coaches is a shame. But to act in the way they are now is also totally a shame. Self interest groups that promote the qualities, qualifications, awareness, etc. are fine. Groups that use threats and intimidation are thugs.
    The only black asistant coach at SC was told he would be a candidate for the position and that they wanted to interview him for the position. When they told him Spurrier was available he told them to sign him quick. He said any coach would have told them to sign Spurrier.
     
  10. rickyd

    rickyd Founding Member

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    Would you hold the same opinion for a White Coaches Assoc:, a White Ms. America pageant, a White entertainment television channel etc.
    I believe that "self interest" groups that are defined by "color" are destined to come under scrutiny and criticism, thus rendering their mission or objective that much harder to achieve without the use of intimidation.
    Whatever happened to hiring the best person for the job? Do whites need a White Players Assoc: just to get back into the NBA or do Americans want to see the BEST players on the court regardless of color.
    I may be naive, but in this day and time, I just don't believe that there is a group of good ole boys keeping black coaches down.
     

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