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LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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Agua said:

Boomer wouldn't mind me copying and pasting. We've sat around in game chats drinking and shooting the crap for years.
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I gathered as much, that he was the "very reliable guy I've known for years" you had referred to. :thumb:

LSUGradin99, Dec 21, 2004

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No way Saban allows that to happen. I can't believe he'll let the Fins tell him who to hire for HIS defensive staff.
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Yeah, I doubt Nick would allow this to happen. Jim Bates and Nick Saban have complete opposite views of defensive philosophies. Saban runs a much more aggressive defense, which includes a variety of disguised blitzes. The Miami Dolphins have yet to run a blitz under Jim Bates (exageration, but they do rarely blitz). Saban would want a lot of control over the defense like he has at LSU, I don't think Bates would want to relinquish that to Saban.

JVincent25, Dec 21, 2004

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Agua said:

Doesn't sound like anything has been decided yet. This is from a very reliable guy I've known for years.

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They told me that as it stood this morning, Jim Bates would interview this afternoon with Eddie Jones, Wayne Huizenga and Spielman. But they said that the job is Saban's. He will be installed QUITE by close of play Thursday, but more likely tomorrow. I am told that there is a strong groundswell of opinion that he will keep Jim Bates on as Defensive Co-ordinator and Assistant Head Coach, IF Bates accepts. My source told me that Bates would accept that role, as long as he was able to have a strong say over the defensive coaches that he keeps including Bill Lewis, Clarence Brooks and Mel Phillips. I'm told that Eddie Jones spoke with Saban and Jimmy Sexton yesterday evening to apprise them of the situation.

My source then told me that Keith Armstrong would not be retained and that Derek Dooley would be installed as ST coach. I then asked about Jimbo Fisher, the Bayou Bengals OC and I was told Saban would LIKELY try and bring Fisher across although there seems to be some indication that LSU AD Skip Bertman is considering Fisher as the new LSU HC.

The most interesting news came when I asked about Art Shell. I was told that Shell 's interview was very, very impressive and that the cognescenti at the team came away thinking that Shell would actually make a very strong candidate for Team President, something that I had wondered about over the past 48 hours myself. I think that the lines of communication between the two parties are open and that when Saban comes across, there will be a conversation with regards to a possible further "interview"/"chat" about that particular position. To my mind, he would make an excellent figurehead and his knowledge of the football side and the business side from his role within the NFL for the past 5 years makes him a very interesting candidate.

And to keep you apprised with the draft, LSU LT Andrew Whitworth will declare. He's a likely 1st rounder. Miami TB Frank Gore will also declare and Roscoe Parrish is close to declaring also.
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Take it for what it's worth - nothing more than another rumor out there, but it does sound reasonable from the Phins' side. If true, it looks like the ball's about to be in Saban's court.
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Doesn't sound like the total control Saban was wanting.

Goodlifetiger, Dec 21, 2004

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Like I said, take it for what its worth. Doesn't sound like a decision has been made yet, if this info is correct.

Agua, Dec 21, 2004

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Goodlifetiger said:

Doesn't sound like the total control Saban was wanting.
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Glad I'm not the only one to pick up on this (I also agree that this sounds more "comprehensive" than the other rumors we're hearing). Consider: Jim Bates, a guy he respects but hasn't coached with in over 10 years, is going to tell Nick who he should retain on the defensive staff (far and away the positions nearest and dearest to Nick).

Uh, no.

Also, what's this about Art Shell as a team executive? That smells, I don't buy it.

If there's a kernel of truth in this, it may be that Miami is using the heavy speculation that Nick is out of the door in Baton Rouge to push back and get Nick to give on some other points.

If so, that begs the question: why should Nick Saban, who is a near lock to be a dominant college coach for the forseeable future, settle?

Consider: if the Bears were the first semi-serious suitor (not counting the Jags, for one) that Nick has had since he's been at LSU, a lesson the Dolphins took from that is Nick wants total control.

So, the Dolphins appear to be saying "whereas the Bears offered you little personnel control, we'll give you more...but not all."

If that's not Nick's cup of tea, he should say, "No thanks, I'll just keep winning 10 games a year, collecting my $2 mil, and wait."

TejasTiger, Dec 21, 2004

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Maybe im wacky.. but what about Art Shell for LSU coach.. just a thought..

locoguano, Dec 21, 2004

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If you want wacky, let's throw out Pete Richardson...

TigerWins, Dec 21, 2004

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TigerWins said:

If you want wacky, let's throw out Pete Richardson...
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Thats not just wacky, thats enough to get the guys in the white jackets to show up at your door and haul you away.

TwistedTiger, Dec 21, 2004

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I name a successful black NFL coach, so you get sarcastic and name a SWAC coach... you have something against a black coach at LSU or something?

locoguano, Dec 21, 2004

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TwistedTiger said:

Thats not just wacky, thats enough to get the guys in the white jackets to show up at your door and haul you away.
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I'm just trying to save LSU a few dollars in moving costs! :grin:

TigerWins, Dec 21, 2004

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