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Hypothetical, but serious question. Two scenarios, Miles leaves LSU or Saban leaves Bama...

Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by TerryP, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. TerryP Well-Known Member

    As I see it, if Saban were to leave Bama and the administration hired Bret Bielema as head coach I wouldn't be upset at all.

    When I look at what he's done at Wisconsin I see several things.

    A very balanced offense.
    A good defense.
    The ability to sustain success.

    I'm curious.

    Let's assume Miles decided to retire and the LSU administration hired Bielema. How would you feel about the hire?
  2. plotalot Active Member

    When does this hypothetical retirement take place? Since it's all make believe, where is Bielema? Is he still at Wisky or is he the head pig?

    If Miles had retired or announced his retirement right after the Arkansas game and Bielema was still at Wisconsin, I wouldn't have a problem with him as the next coach at LSU. If Miles would retire anytime between now and the start of next season I would have to question Bielema's loyalty and character in general. I would then have issues with the hire, but on the other hand getting to hear the pigs squeal would be tempting.
  3. LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    It would make for one hell of a conversation that's for sure, I think what I would be the most concerned with would be retention of the rest of the staff, namely John Chavis, Frank Wilson, and Brick Haley, and then recruits that have committed for the incoming class. Those things would trump the departure of Miles and the arrival of BB for me anyway.
  4. TerryP Well-Known Member

    Success on the field.

    Does maintain the current success?
  5. MLUTiger Secular Humanist

    The Big 10's representative to the Rose Bowl loses their coach to the 4th best team in the SEC West...

    Good hire by Arkansas. He's not going to be flashy and throw up huge offensive numbers like Petrino. He's going to field a good defense and lean on a solid running game, which is how LSU and Bama have become perennial BCS CG contenders. I'd be more than happy with him at LSU. He's a young guy as well, so he should have no problems relating to recruits.
  6. furduknfish Goldmember

    Especially since he dates the same chics.
  7. furduknfish Goldmember

    If you and TT leave with Saban, I think we'd all be thrilled. Hypothetically speaking of course.
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  8. red55 curmudgeon

    Nick or Les leaving voluntarily would be entirely different from the Arkansas vacancy. Arkansas recruits a football poor recruiting region and has no national or conference trophies. They are in a division where they have to play LSU and Alabama every single season. Arkansas fired its coach and had to go find a coach to come in and rebuild.

    In the last decade, LSU and Alabama have each been to three BCS championship games, have multiple national and SEC championships, have perennial top-10 recruiting classes, and win over 80% of their games in the toughest division in the toughest league in America. They are two of the four sweetest gigs in college football.

    If the head coaches at either of those schools retires and leaves a loaded team with top facilities, rabid fans, top income, football traditions, legendary coaches, legendary stadiums and an administration that pays top dollar . . .

    Top coaches will be approaching overtly, covertly and from all angles. Coaches will come out of the woodwork angling for an interview. LSU or Bama will have its pick of the best candidates in America. If one isn't available they will steal one from another top job.

    Just like the last few vacancies at both schools.
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  9. LSUTyga73 Well-Known Member

    The offense is much more run-oriented. The only year they had a passing game was because of Russell Wilson.

    The defense is average, good enough to win but not the strong point of the team.

    The success is definitely there...but not in bowl games.

    He's 2-4 in bowl games including 0-2 in the Rose Bowl which is a little concerning.

    But then again, Les Miles or Saban didn't exactly come to LSU as world beaters so you never know.
  10. TigerTap LSUsports.net

    No for several reasons.

    Losing record against Ohio State (1-5), losing record against against Penn State (2-3), did have a winning record against Michigan (3-2)..but it was the Rich Rod years, he beat LLoyd 1 time, but never coached against Brady Hoke.

    So, his record against the Top of the Big 10 is only 5-11 overall. And even against the Mid-Level Big 10 schools, he doesn't have a winning record over Michigan State (3-4) but had a winning record over Nebraska (1-2) Still 4-6 overall, against the Mid-level teams.

    After that, who's left in the Big 10? Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern

    He doesn't do well in Bowl Games, 2-4.

    Recruiting is suspect. He's brought down most of his old Big 10 defensive coaches & hired the OC at Tennessee who was just fired by the Vols.

    So what are we looking at here? A coach who has not had great success against the Top or even mid-tier Big 10 schools. He has a good record, but look who he's playing & winning against. There's a reason why Bielema has never been a "Hot name" in coaching searches.