Never have...never will. A lot of people have swallowed Archie's PR campaign hook, line and sinker and place the whole clan on a pedestal as though they are the anointed ones. Look at the Eli situation. Forget the fact that the entire draft system is designed to ensure parity by letting the worst teams pick the best players. Eli (The Beaver), Archie (Ward) and Olivia (June) whine that they don't want to go there, ostensibly because poor Eli, a strapping young athlete, will be risking his career due to potential injury given the perceived lack of protection he'll get with San Diego. (Gee Wally, er Peyton, will Eddie Haskell be trying to hurt me?) So, he gleefully goes to the Giants after the Chargers pillage their draft choices, including next years #1. Why? Not for protection. Last year's Giants OL gave up 51 sacks; SD allowed 29. At SD he could hand off to LaDamien Tomlinson, one of the NFL's premier running backs. Who's he going to hand it to at NY? Jim Finn? Tiki (fumbleitis) Barber? Has beens Dorsey Levens and Brian Mitchell? No my friends. Eli did not hold his breath and turn Giant blue for the protection. He went there for the New York Media. He couldn't win a Heisman at Ole Piss and he won't get NFL MVP on the west coast. It's all about the Mannings. Nobody else matters.