If USC, Oklahoma and Auburn finish unbeaten, who should get left out?

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  1. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    ????????? that's the entire problem. zero merit since USC should be the odd team out.
     
    tirk, Nov 23, 2004
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  2. Mr. Peabody

    Mr. Peabody Founding Member

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    Yeah, exactly. It would still be bias if the 117 coaches don't have to put USC in the mix and consider the possibility that they shouldn't play in the Championship Game.
     
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  3. COTiger

    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

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    tirk, on that you and I agree as to leaving the Condoms out. I also think it's fair to suggest we have a little bias and animosity against USC :lol:

    However, a deserving team is going to get screwed out of the #2 spot. I like the concept of leaving it up to the Div 1A coaches to vote on the #2 spot.
     
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  4. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    i'd like to think I put aside my animosity when deciding these things. I learned long ago if i'm putting some of my cheese on these games I better learn to evaluate teams objectively and I think I do a pretty decent job and usually at the expense of undervaluing teams I pull for just to be sure. i.e., i am usually much harder in evaluating LSU than other teams by nature.

    This is why I stated USC is the least proven (many listed above):

    USC is a probably more of a farce than any of the top 3 given that special teams cost Cal a win given they outgained them 2:1. (usually each 100 yards equates to 6 points in college football so its not a reach that Cal was the better team.) Va Tech was one bad call from winning their game. Stanford had them on the ropes.

    Oregon St was one I left out.

    So, put them in the SEC where quite a few teams have an actual defense. This is something USC hasn't come close to facing this year and I can almost assume they'd have a loss given their own struggles within one of the weakest conferences around. Yet, no one knows for certain.

    Bob Davie's argument simply magnifies the exact reason this system fails. The media and its voters have no clue and/or credibility when it comes to voting these polls. Half of them vote based on ego regardless who they truly feel is best while the other half are sheep and believe what they hear on ESPN.

    collegefootballnews is one a very few places where guys actually put in work evaluating teams and taking their jobs seriously. Pete Fiutak is a guy who I hear/read quite often and respect his efforts and opinions for doing so:

    he has seen every game of all 3 teams at least once. gotta respect that. Given the true importance and impact the NC game has, all these other fat hacks should have their votes revoked til they prove they have the slightest idea what's going on. its similar to those who voted kerry and really believed it was best. :lol: :lol:
     
    tirk, Nov 23, 2004
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  5. diamondheadtiger

    diamondheadtiger Founding Member

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    Put sos and margin of victory (with a cap) back in and give it all to the computers. JMO :)
     
    diamondheadtiger, Nov 23, 2004
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  6. SpringTiger

    SpringTiger Founding Member

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    Not necessarily. There are still four games to be played involving the three teams. I really don't see OU losing, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if USC and AU lost. I hope it happens. I hope all of 'em lose. I hope USC loses twice! Mainly, though, I hope ut loses to Texas A&M! Cal and Utah in the Orange Bowl! That would be AWESOME!

    :geaux:
     
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  7. diamondheadtiger

    diamondheadtiger Founding Member

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    Utah vs. OU in the Orange, man I'd have some fun with that :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
     
    diamondheadtiger, Nov 23, 2004
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  8. KTeamLSU

    KTeamLSU Founding Member

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    I would like to see Utah vs. USC or Auburn... that shotgun option they use looks pretty confusing. Utah's QB continues to impress me.
     
    KTeamLSU, Nov 23, 2004
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  9. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Strength of Schedule, here is the approximate position each team will finish:
    Oklahoma = 17
    USC = 19
    Auburn = 20

    So that's a wash. Ok, ever so slight advantage OU.

    Games they "could have lost":
    OU = @Oklahoma State, @Texas A&M
    USC = @VTech, @Stanford, California
    Auburn = LSU

    USC is by far the worst here as Stanford is not very good, VTech was trying to find it's way early on, and Cal totally dominated the game and gave it away. The Oregon State game was too close for comfort as well, but I did not include it on the list. Auburn is by far the best here as they had trouble beating a VERY TALENTED LSU team at home (my therapy is working SabanFan). Oklahoma also fares well here as both close games were against quality conference teams on the road.

    Quality Wins:
    OU = Texas (neutral site), @Oklahoma St., @Texas A&M
    USC = @VTech, California, Arizona St.
    Auburn = LSU, @Tennessee, Georgia

    I think you can make a case for Texas, Cal and Georgia being a draw as the toughest games on each team's schedule, with OU playing Texas at a neutral site however, although I favor Cal as the toughest of the 3. USC and Auburn hold a slight advantage with the next 2 toughest games versus OU, although OU's games were both on the road.

    So overall, I would give USC and Auburn a tie, with OU lagging slightly behind.

    Overall Projection from these 3 components:
    1) Auburn
    2) OU
    3) USC

    Recommendation: Notre Dame or UCLA need to beat USC and let the 2 most deserving teams face each other in the Orange Bowl.
     
    islstl, Nov 23, 2004
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  10. Mr. Peabody

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    A Pro OU post by you. I'm impressed.
     
    Mr. Peabody, Nov 23, 2004
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