Is Bush's achilles heel his family relationship with the Saudis?

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  1. phatcat

    phatcat Founding Member

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    It begins in the 1970's in Houston, Texas, when George W. Bush was just starting out in his family's two businesses of politics and oil.

    The powerful - and very rich - Bin Laden family helped fund his first venture into oil.

    The cozy friendship continued for decades. After a terrorist attack at a barracks in Saudi Arabia which killed 19 Americans, the bin Laden family received a multi-billion dollar contract to re-build.

    Incredibly, George Bush Sr. was in a business meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington on the morning of September 11th with one of Osama Bin Laden's brothers.

    While the rest of national airspace was closed following 9/11, the Bin Laden family's jet was allowed to fly around the country gathering up family members so that they might leave the U.S.

    It seems to me that the democrats are missing out on an interesting opportunity here.
     
  2. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    That's a pretty incredible story. Got any thing to back it up?
     
  3. Vincent4Heisman

    Vincent4Heisman Freshman

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    Irregardless, Osama Bin Laden was disowned by his family for being a shit head. His father and his brothers aren't terrorist c*cksuckers.

    At least that's what I remember from the time just after 9/11 when all of this first came about.
     
  4. phatcat

    phatcat Founding Member

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    I've got an idea, how about I give you a time line, plagerized and borrowed from many published articles and you do some research on your own, rather than believing w/o question what you hear from Rush and his stooges, and see if you can refute even one bit of the following information, OK? Forgive the length of the following compilation, but this ain't no simple tale.

    1964
    George H.W. Bush, running for the U.S. Senate from Texas, was labeled by incumbent Democrat Ralph Yarborough as a hireling of the sheik of Kuwait, for whom Bush's company drilled offshore oil wells. Over the four decades since then, the ever-reaching Bushes have emerged as the first U.S. political clan to thoroughly entangle themselves with Middle Eastern royal families and oil money. The family even has links to the bin Ladens-- although not to family black sheep Osama bin Laden -- going back to the 1970s.

    1968
    George W. Bush joins the Texas Air National Guard, a coveted position that ensures he doesnÕt have to serve in Vietnam. While a member of the Guard, Bush meets and befriends Jim Bath, a former Air Force pilot and budding entrepreneur.

    1976
    George H. W. Bush becomes director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). During his tenure, Bush helps provide training for the Saudi royal familyÕs palace guard, cementing a relationship that proves critical to the Bush familyÕs fortunes. Bush also privatizes various CIA assets, with Bath considered one of the beneficiaries because of his involvement in the aircraft business. Bath will later tell a business associate he works for the CIA and was recruited by Bush Sr.

    Jim Bath is alleged to be the link between the Bin Laden and Bush families.

    Salem Bin Laden, older brother to future al Qaeda leader Osama, enters into a trust agreement with Jim Bath, whereby Bath will act as the bin Laden familyÕs representative in North America, investing money in various business ventures.

    Bath also becomes the business representative of Khalid bin Mahfouz, a member of Saudi ArabiaÕs most powerful banking family and owners of the National Commercial Bank, the principal bank of the Saudi royal family.

    1978
    Charles W. ÒBillÓ White, a former Annapolis graduate and US Navy pilot, graduates from HarvardÕs business school. He is then introduced to Jim Bath who is looking for someone to manage his real estate company. Bath hires White as his partner. Money from the bin Laden and bin Mahfouz families is invested in BathÕs real estate company. Among other things, Bath buys the Saudis an airport, office and apartment buildings, and invests in Texas banks.

    Eventually, Salem Bin Laden and Khalid bin Mahfouz buy an enormous mansion in River Oaks, HoustonÕs most affluent neighborhoood.

    Bush Jr. was a young man when he received funding for his first oil venture from Jim Bath.

    George W. Bush starts up an oil company in Texas called Arbusto 78. Bath will invest money from Salem bin Laden and Khalid bin Mahfouz in this new company. Bill White is told by Bath that more than $1-million of the SaudisÕ money was pumped into BushÕs venture.

    1979
    The Carter administration, through the CIA, begins to fund the fledgling mujahadeen in Afghanistan Ð six months before the Soviet invasion Ð in the hopes of drawing the USSR into its own Vietnam.

    1980
    George H.W. Bush runs for the presidential nomination of the Republican Party, but loses to Ronald Reagan. He becomes ReaganÕs running mate and eventual vice-president.

    1981
    Osama bin Laden, son of the founder of the Bin Laden Group, the largest construction company in Saudi Arabia, travels to Afghanistan to help the mujahadeen in their bloody war against the Soviet Union.

    1986
    Bill White and Jim Bath have a falling out. Bath then launches 28 frivolous lawsuits against White, leading to WhiteÕs financial ruin and expulsion from HoustonÕs business community. White fights the lawsuits, refusing to take a huge pay off to keep silent about his knowledge of BathÕs relationship to the Saudis and Bush family.

    Throughout the decade of the 80s, George H.W. Bush's four sons -- George W., Jeb, Neil and Marvin -- were following in the family footsteps, lining up business deals with Saudi, Kuwaiti and Bahraini moneymen and cozying up to BCCI. The Middle East was becoming a convenient family money spigot.

    1987
    Harken Energy, a company that George W. BushÕs failed oil companies have been folded into, receives $25-million stock offering underwritten by significant players connected to the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), a Middle Eastern banking concern. Bush, as the president's son, is key to Harken obtaining the money.

    1989
    The Soviets pull out of Afghanistan after the CIA spends (US) $3-billion on the largest covert operation in its history. Osama bin Laden returns to Saudi Arabia, angry with how the Americans abandoned Afghanistan after the Soviet retreat.

    Bin Mahfouz, Osama's brother-in-law, lived in Houston and had ties to both the bin Ladens and Jim Bath.


    1988-92
    The BCCI scandal breaks. The bank is exposed for being a massive criminal enterprise, catering to some of the most notorious villains of the 20th century, including Saddam Hussein, Manuel Noriega, terrorist leaders Abu Nidal, and the Medellin drug cartel and for being involved in money laundering, the Iran contra scandal, and pilfering investorsÕ cash. At the time of its collapse, Khalid Bin Mahfouz (see above) was COO of BCCI, and is eventually fined $225-million to settle felony charges for stealing investorsÕ money.

    1991
    The first Gulf War occurs, whereby George H. W. Bush is determined to push Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait to ensure the Iraqi dictator doesnÕt have a stranglehold on world oil markets. Osama bin Laden urges the Saudi royal family to find an Arab solution, by raising an army on their own to fight Hussein. When the royal family invites the U.S. in to do the job instead, Bin Laden becomes disenchanted with the House of al-Saud. His anger grows when after the war the US leaves 20,000 troops behind in Saudi Arabia.

    Soon Bin Laden makes a deal with the Saudi royal family: he is allowed to leave the kingdom with his fortune, and will receive funding for al Qaeda from various Saudi charities and banks, but in return he must not launch attacks against the royal family. Bin Laden settles in the Sudan, aiming his ire at the US.

    1992
    George H. W. Bush loses to Bill Clinton. Eventually the former president becomes an adviser to the Carlyle Group, a powerful Washington-based private investment firm with interests in the defense industry. Among his duties, Bush helps strengthen CarlyleÕs ties to the Saudi royal family. He will later visit Saudi Arabia and the bin Laden family compound. The bin Ladens eventually invest in the Carlyle Group.

    Carlyle buys a company called Vinnell Corp., which provides training to the Saudi palace guard. George W. Bush briefly sits on the board of directors of one of CarlyleÕs subsidiaries.

    1993
    The first attack on the World Trade Centre, which is connected to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, occurs.

    After losing his bid for a second term as president, Bush joined up in 1993 with the Washington-based Carlyle Group. Under the leadership of ex-officials such as Baker and former Defense Secretary Frank C. Carlucci, Carlyle developed a specialty in buying defense companies and doubling or quadrupling their value. The ex-president not only became an investor in Carlyle, but a member of the company's Asia Advisory Board and a rainmaker who drummed up investors. Twelve rich Saudi families, including the bin Ladens, were among them. In 2002, The Washington Post reported, "Saudis close to Prince Sultan, the Saudi defense minister ... were encouraged to put money into Carlyle as a favor to the elder Bush." Bush retired from the company last October, and Baker, who lobbied U.S. allies last month to forgive Iraq's debt, remains a Carlyle senior counselor.

    1994
    George W. Bush becomes governor of Texas.

    1995
    Five American soldiers are killed in a car bomb in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis quickly execute the suspects they arrest, ignoring wishes from the FBI to interrogate them beforehand.

    The Taliban come to power in Afghanistan with the backing of PakistanÕs notorious intelligence agency, the ISI.

    1996
    Osama bin Laden is forced to move from the Sudan to Afghanistan under pressure from the Clinton administration. Neither the US nor the Saudis make an effort to arrest him Ð despite the opportunity offered up to them by the Sudanese government.

    June
    A truck bomb blows up the al-Khobar barracks, housing US air force personnel in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 soldiers. A group called Saudi Hezbollah claims responsibility. Eventually, the Clinton administration drops the investigation because it does not want to upset relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran Ð the country that funds Hezbollah.

    The Saudis - including Bin Mahfouz meet with an al Qaeda representative at a Paris hotel in 1996.
    Summer
    A meeting of prominent Saudis occurs in a Paris hotel. Among the attendees is the head of Saudi intelligence, Turki bin Faisal, and Khalid bin Mahfouz. They meet with a representative of al Qaeda and agree to extend the earlier arrangement made between the Saudi royal family and Osama bin Laden Ð whereby in return for cash, al Qaeda agrees not to attack inside Saudi Arabia.

    The CIA produces an internal report that documents the numerous Saudi charities that are funding terrorists. Osama bin LadenÕs name is mentioned.

    1998
    Al Qaeda makes it most audacious attack to date by blowing up US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people.

    2000
    January
    Ziad Jarrah, pilot of Flight 93, which would crash into a field in Pennsylvania on 9/11, is stopped and interrogated at an airport in United Arab Emirates (UAE). He is returning from al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan and is carrying Islamic religious material on him. The US is informed of the interrogation but not the details.

    January
    A high-powered meeting of al Qaeda occurs in an apartment complex in Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. Attending the meeting is Khalid Shaykh Mohammed, the number three man in al Qaeda and mastermind behind the 1998 US embassy attacks, and architect of the USS Cole and 9/11 attacks to come. Also at the meeting is Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, two Saudi citizens who would end up as hijackers on Flight 77, the plane that crashes into the Pentagon on 9/11.

    The CIA learns about the meeting beforehand and asks the Malaysian secret police to place it under surveillance. Video footage and photographs of the dozen men in attendance are taken, though no tape recording is possible. After the meeting breaks up, Al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar fly to the US on their own passports, landing in Los Angeles. There they are met by Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi national who works for the Saudi civil aviation authority. Just prior to picking up the two would-be hijackers, Al-Bayoumi meets with a member of the Saudi consulate in LA Ð a man connected to terrorist activity.

    Al-Bayoumi takes al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi to San Diego, puts them up in an apartment, signs a lease, holds a party for them, enrolls them in flight school and gives them money. Later, the FBI concludes that al-Bayoumi is likely a Saudi intelligence agent.

    Al-Bayoumi also passes on thousands of dollars to the hijackers that originate from Princess Haifa, wife of Prince Bandar Saudi ambassador to the US.

    May-June
    Members of the Hamburg cell, including ringleader Mohammed Atta, enter the US. They are traveling on Saudi visas, all of which contain errors on them.

    September
    Al-Hazmi and Al-Mihdhar move into the home of a local imam in San Diego, Abdussattar Shaikh. The imam is an FBI informant. In fact, Shaikh holds meetings with his FBI handler while al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar sit in a room next door. Shaikh contends he was never told what mission the hijackers were on. His FBI handler, meanwhile, was never informed by his superiors to look out for al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar.

    October
    The USS Cole, sitting in a harbour off the coast of Yemen, is attacked by a boat laden with explosives, killing 17 sailors.

    November
    George W. Bush is elected president of the US in a contested election. Support for his campaign from the oil industry is generous.

    2001
    In the months leading up to 9/11, the CIA, FBI and National Security Agency receive a burgeoning mountain of intelligence that a terrorist attack of some magnitude, and launched by Al Qaeda, is imminent. They assume the attack will happen overseas.

    January
    The CIA and FBI begin to piece together the importance of the individuals who met a year earlier in Malaysia. Despite the information they have, neither al-Hazmi nor al-Mihdhar are placed on the State Department and Customs watch list.

    April
    Al-Hazmi is stopped for speeding in Oklahoma. He is let go because his name does not appear in the police officerÕs data bank as a wanted man.

    May
    The CIA will later determine that Khalid Shaykh Mohammed, architect of 9/11 and al QaedaÕs other attacks, was entering the US as late as this month, despite the fact he is a well-known figure in the terrorist netherworld, his name first becoming known to the CIA as early as 1995.

    June
    CIA and FBI meet to talk about al-Mihdhar. But the CIA does not hand over critical information to the FBI. Again, the men are not placed on any watch list and a search for them is not initiated.

    July
    A Phoenix, Az.-based FBI counter-terrorism agent writes a lengthy memo in which he says it has been noticed that a high number of Arabs, possibly with connections to al Qaeda, are taking flying lessons in local flight schools. His memo is ignored by FBI headquarters.

    August
    President Bush receives a detailed and lengthy presidential daily briefing from the CIA in which Osama Bin Laden and al QaedaÕs aim of launching an attack against the US is discussed. To this day, the Bush White House refuses to release the contents of this briefing to Congressional inquiries into 9/11.

    The CIA finally puts al-Hazmi and al-MihdharÕs name on the watch lists. By then it is too late. The FBI and CIA do a limited search for the men.

    Sept. 11/2001
    The attack occurs. The morning of the attack George Bush Sr. is meets with members of the Carlyle Group in Washington. Bin Laden's own brother is at the meeting. Members of the Bin Laden family are allowed to leave the U.S. without questioning two days later.

    Bolder of his critics have hinted that George W. Bush has sought to shift attention away from how his family's ties to the bin Ladens and to rogue elements in the Middle East had crippled U.S. investigations in the months leading up to 9/11. Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., complained that even when Congress released the mid-2003 intelligence reports on the origins of the 9/11 attack, the Bush administration heavily redacted a 28-page section dealing with the Saudis and other foreign governments, leading him to conclude, "There seems to be a systematic strategy of coddling and cover-up when it comes to the Saudis."

    There is no guarantee that the events of Sept. 11 would have been prevented ahead of time had someone other than a Bush been president. But there is certainly enough evidence to suggest that the Bush dynasty's many decades of entanglement and money-hunting in the Middle East have created a major conflict of interest that deserves to be part of the 2004 political debate. No previous presidency has had anything remotely similar. Not one.
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    1970 - John Kerry consorts with Hanoi Jane Fonda rendering all of the above moot. Vote for Bush. Thank you and good night.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Still no attribution or documentation. Lyndon LaRouche newsletters don't count. They have less credibility than Limbaugh's diatribes.

    Cite some sources, man.
     
  7. phatcat

    phatcat Founding Member

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    OK. You asked for em...

    There are many more, but I think this will give you the gist of what's out there. I didn't go into most of the more damning evidence because as you will see, some is not provable. I only used info that was provable by more than one source to be verifiable.

    http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm

    http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ny17_engel/pr072403.html

    http://www.veteransforpeace.org/The_secret_saudi_052703.htm

    http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1030259305

    http://www.publicedcenter.org/stories/saudi-evacuation/behind-the-scenes.shtml

    http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1060438/posts


    ENJOY :)
     
  8. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    phatcat Founding Member

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    Every single point made in my post, many of them admittedly lifted verbatum from the post you site, has been backed up by the same information contained in the multiple additional sites given to check the information contained in my original post. Again, if you can find any information that is not factual or at least which is not verified by another source please feel free to point it out. I think you will find that my earlier post checks out to be factual and correct. We are at present being governed by a pretty darned scarey administration.
     
  10. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    That's good enough for me.

    Jane Fonda. That unamerican liberal cunt.
     

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