Is coaching staff putting Lee in bad passing situations?

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  1. QBLuke

    QBLuke Hickey Da God

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    To answer your question, yes, the coaching staff is putting Lee in bad situations. Almost all of his bad throws/pick 6's have come on 3rd and 8+ while backed up inside own 20.

    Lee is also putting the coaching staff in bad situations so you can't put the blame squarely on the playcalling, but a lot of times that is where the problems have arised.

    If we hammer it home to Lee that a punt is okay, and teach him how to hit a checkdown every once in a while we'll eliminate some of these backbreaking mistakes.

    EDIT-where has Dickson been on all these 3rd downs? Lee looks to him 1-2 times a game but that's not enough. Flynn was looking to hit Richard 4-5 times a game. With a weapon that valuable at TE and a young QB it only makes sense to use him as a security blanket. We need Lee to develop more comfort with hitting his secondary reads underneath. If his man isn't open deep he'll throw it anyway, or throw it out of bounds....but all this comes with time.
     
  2. Crip*TEAM KATT

    Crip*TEAM KATT As Wild As We Wanna Be

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    I said nothing about running the ball.

    I said you cant make your passing game one sided. We cant just take away the timing routes because he cant throw them. We do that then all the defense has to defend is the deep down the field passes making their game much easier.
     
  3. Bamabuzzard

    Bamabuzzard Founding Member

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    Maybe I misunderstood...
     
  4. Crip*TEAM KATT

    Crip*TEAM KATT As Wild As We Wanna Be

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    Run down the field AND chunk it up.

    Now am I talking about a running back or wideout?
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Lee just needs time to learn the position, you can't get it all in practice. He still focuses on his primary receiver. He throws into coverage when another receiver is wide open sometimes.

    You could watch the Troy quarterback check receivers on both sides of the field before throwing on almost every play, even with a three-step drop and a quick release. Lee is learning this the hard way, but he is learning.
     
  6. phi1514

    phi1514 Founding Member

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    YES!!!!!!!! Crowton has done it all year with Lee. JJ comes in and on a 3rd and long, Crowton calls a rollout to the left?!?!?!?!?!? News flash...JJ is right handed and had to throw across his body and missed an open WR as a result.

    Our OC has been putting our young QBs in precarious situations but one has to wonder...from his perspective...which J. Lee do you plan for? The one that makes plays or the one that throws pick sixes? We can't run a draw on EVERY single 3rd down that is over 5 yards.

    I think we are in the midst of trial by fire and he is getting HOURS of film study each week to review his mistakes. Crowton is calling the game as if he has an experienced QB but he doesn't. What do you do though? You can't be SOOOO one dimensional.
     
  7. JSracing

    JSracing Founding Member

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    Lee is staring down his recievers, everyone knows where it is going to. Even hawthorne saw that and he is blind. he will just have to get this out of his system by working more, more reps painful but more. Alternating him and JJ helped last night I think. I dont think they need to dumb down the offense but they could take better advantage to situations and I think that is what Miles did last night. It could be that JJ just wasnt ready to do that before now. Even though I was ready for him 3 games ago. :)
     
  8. Bamabuzzard

    Bamabuzzard Founding Member

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    I guess I'm just gingerly retarded...:huh:
     
  9. offshoretrash

    offshoretrash Founding Member

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    The only problem with Lee is he is thinking too much. When he gets it all together he could be a special player. JR had a pretty bad year his first year as well and look how he turned out.

    It's not about if the coaching staff is putting him in bad situations it's about Lee growing up and learning how to deal with playing college football.

    One thing I would like to see us do is go to no huddle or hurry up offense, give Lee less time to think just react.
     
  10. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Miles admitted that handcuffing Lee was the wrong decision.

    First, it made the Tigers too predictable for a well-coached and battle-tested Troy team.

    Second, it probably led to Lee doubting himself a bit more than he otherwise would've.

    Third, it TOTALLY set up those stupid 3rd and 8, "wonder if they're going to throw now" situations.

    Lee had time to throw all night. He had time to check off. He's just still figuring that out real time. Games are to practice what Oban is to Cutty Sark. Takes some getting used to. Not at all the same. etc....

    So - yes, coaches didn't help. But not in the way you seem to say it. Coaches should've opened up the game and let him play. Take more risk. Especially now.
     

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