Is Miles serious...

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  1. khounba

    khounba Founding Member

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    The way it is set up now is subjective because every West teams play differents East teams. What he is saying is that it should go by Western division opponents since we all play them head to head. That is not subjective.
     
  2. macatak911

    macatak911 CRAIG STELTZ = BEAST

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    i somewhat agree...we played florida, tennessee, and kentucky they played tennessee, south carolina, and vandy.

    option number two seems easier
     
  3. TejasTiger

    TejasTiger Founding Member

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    Well, they're no more beatable than they were the day LSU beat themselves in Gainsville with 6 turnovers. Maybe he should direct some of that rage-induced "foaming" into making Early D catch about 10,000 kickoffs a day in practice or JR run the QB sneak drill about 100,000 time a day instead.

    It'd be a far more producive use of all that anger, IMO.
     
  4. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Well it's not like the SEC East is some foreign conference foe. They are still our SEC brethren.

    That makes no sense to me that he should want the SEC East games discounted when determining who gets to go to the SEC CG.

    This makes him look rather silly. I hope nobody from the SEC gets a hold of this article.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Then why have divisions? What if the teams with the best W/L records are in the same division?
     
  6. khounba

    khounba Founding Member

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    Why doesn't it make sense? If you are going to have two divisions and one representative from each in the championship game why not have the best from each division. That would mean throwing out the East records. In this case I think it worked out OK because we had our shot at Florida and now Arkansas can have theirs. But if you are going to count the overall SEC record why not get rid of the divisions and just look at the overall record? Or just take the best overall record and call them the champs?
     
  7. JP4LSU

    JP4LSU Founding Member

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    I guess I was a little hard on Les with my reply. I understand he is being rhetorical with his comment, but it just came out different when the quote is not in context.

    I understand his point and can somewhat agree with him. The same thing happens in the Big 12 and I don't really have a problem with it, except that a team is placed in a big disadvantage on certain years because of the rotation and permanent teams from the rival division on your schedule.

    LSU's schedule was brutal, whereas Arky had a much easier schedule. It works for Arky this year but will work for LSU next year. Because we get UF every year and Arky doesn't it seems a bit unfair. Is there a good way to fix the drastic differences in schedules.....maybe but that situation may change as teams get better or get worse in the conference.

    We could come up with a scheduling sequence for the conference that seems fair and say that the team with the best "divisional" record goes to the SECCG. But then there could be scenarios where a west team wins all their division games but lose 3 east division games and the 2nd team in the West has only 1 division loss. That scenario wouldn't be right either.

    There really isnt a fool proof way to do this where there wouldn't be a situation that could screw it all up.
     
  8. ChineseBandit

    ChineseBandit Founding Member

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    Sounds like he just doesn't think games outside the division should decide the division.
     
  9. G-LSU

    G-LSU Founding Member

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    I interperted t2 different points he was trying to make...
    1) We beat the Team representing the SEC West.....
    2) He is lobbying or trying to make a case that is similar to how the NFL used to work before re-alignment...Your team played Divisional Games,Conference Games and Non-Conference Games. In the Conference games, not every team in the same division played against the same opponenets which some would say isn't fair.

    If we were going to be completely fair, their should be some sort of rotation where the SEC West team will play all of the East teams in a 2-3 year rotation, but I know that would hurt some great rivalalry games that take place every year. (LSU vs. FLA)

    What if we did for example a 1 Home-1 Away game vs... FLA, SC, Ten for 2 yrs, the other 3 GA, KY, Vandy the following two years.....
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  10. LSUTyga73

    LSUTyga73 Football Connoisseur

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    There's a major flaw though. A team with an SEC record of 4-4 could get into the title game over a team in the same division with an SEC record of 7-1. You play 5 division opponents a year and if both go 4-1 but one goes 3-0 in the east and the other goes 0-3 in the east but beat the other team head-to-head then i don't think the 4-4 team is deserving. And just to go further on that thought, if the 4-4 team goes 0-4 in the OOC conference and the other team goes 4-0, you would have a 4-8 team in the SEC championship over a 12-1 team. Sorry to those i've confused :)
     

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