well in this case i was discussing the topic, how likely it is that we lost our democracy. it makes a difference. if one guy shows up at the post office (a federal building) and screams "i am now dictator LOL"! one could say he is an insurrectionist and lock him up forever. but really he just needs to be told to please be quiet and wait in line like everyone else. similarly, the Jan 6th folks were really just trespassers and a few rioters, they wanted vote recounts no big deal.