All good points, and a good thread with many good posts. I don't see going to FSU as better than staying at LSU. We will be rated higher for the next couple of years anyhow, as Red says. If the FSU AD offered Jimbo the job in two years and Bobby said he'd go in two, what are the odds they would reneg on the deal? I bet Jimbo would have a good buy out if they did, IMO.
Jimbo is friends with many ex-players, one of whom is a friend of ours.....Jimbo has been ready to move on for some time because of his relationship with Miles. Truth be told, I hate to see him go. :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead :tigerhead
Like Red pointed out, the things being said about the relationship between Miles and Jimbo were largely the same between Saban and Jimbo. 6 of one, half-dozen of the other. The problem with Jimbo (and this is strictly my personal opinion) is that he feels he's deserving of something that others don't agree. There was an article in the advocate about Pelini and Jimbo's stong desire to not only be head coaches--but be head coaches at schools in BCS conferences--high profile jobs if you will. Jobs that history has shown that aren't handed out to too many coaches with no head coaching experience or extensive coaching experience as NFL coordinators. Having read that, plus with the rumors about Miles and Jimbo's relationship, coupled by some of the same rumors about Jimbo and Saban, I've come to the conclusion that Jimbo might have a problem realizing/accepting that no matter how good of a collegiate offensive coordinator he is, he still needs to accept the fact that he's not the head coach and that he still needs to understand that he may get over-ruled by his boss from time to time.
As has been pointed out here and all over the internet, Saban was a defensive minded coach, and despite overruling some playcalls during the game (which somehow were 'leaked' out when they didn't work), Nick basically let him gameplan and call the offense. Miles does the same to Pelini as Nick did to Jimbo (ie leave most of the minutiae up to him), but he was himself an OC at OSU before becoming HC, so it stands to reason he spends more 'quality' time in the offensive planning. I'm sure anyone would get ruffled feathers in this scenario, especially when the philosophies are slightly different and one has the power to force the other into doing something.
Let's make no bones about it, LSU may be a stronger program right now but Florida State is a primo job. If he comes in and is the hero as an OC and FSU returns to prominence in competing for another NC, he could easily be viewed as the leading candidate for Bowden's replacement. That has to be part of the logic for Jimbo to make the move. I am excited about the opportunity to bring in someone Miles would be comfortable with as OC. Oklahoma State was a very exciting offense to watch during Miles' tenure, I would hope to see a much more wide open offense with whomever Miles' chooses as our new OC.
Florida State's offense has been horrid since Mark Richt left. If Jimbo can get any signs of life from the offense and FSU starts winning 9 or 10 games again, he will get most of the credit. He's taking a chance if he goes.
I agree with istsl & Morton's points. I doubt there is a promise attached to the job offer. There is just the potential. Jimbo figures Bowden can't last much longer - Bowden probably told him as much, he was also possibly told that he would be considered for the head coaching position when Bowden leaves, and Jimbo knows that if he turns the offense around the fans will want him as HC.
You bring up a really good point about Miles' offenses @ OSU. I think most people assume that Miles is the conservative offensive mind, but actually, the more conservative guy may be Fisher. Our offensive gameplans are not much different than they were under Saban. Perhaps the problem with Miles and Fisher is that Miles would be more wide open. I think our teams under Miles have taken more risks than under Saban (more fake punts, more 4th down attempts, etc.).
Not disagreeing but you just reminded me of Saban's opening on side kick against Auburn. That was balsy. Talk about catch Cigar T off guard!!
Yes, Saban had his moments, too, but I still think Miles is a bit more ballsy than Saban with the trickery.
