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ParadiseiNC · Nov 9, 2011

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yeah .. right issy .. .I'm sure Sandusky told Joe all about it. "Hey Joe .. guess what I did last night ..." ... or Joe Ask ... "D'you do this??" .. Sandusky .. "Sure I did Joe .. been doing it for years".

Or better yet ... I bet ol Curly and Schultz called ol Joe in and said .. "hey ... uh look Joe ... we interviewed the kid ... and ... well, we just need to sweep this thing under the rug ..ya know" .... and Joe said . "ok .. sure".

Or even better.... Joe reports it and Mo, Larry and Currly told Joe ... well .. Joe ..if you bring us some real proof, then we'll listen to what ya got to say ... till then, we ain't hearin' it".

Like I said .. Joe did what he was supposed to do. Joe followed protocol.

What's so fricken amazing to me .. it almost seems this whole media frenzie has become more about Joe than about Sundusky, Curly and Schultz.

Yeah yeah .. Sandusky abused some kids, and this Curly and Schultz guy covered it up ... BUT THE BIG NEWS IS .. Paterno didn't report it to the state police.

String him up boys.
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It is definitely a media frenzy and agenda. Joe is just the high profile, visible target. Agreed he was not the perpetrator, but if he notifies authorities, as opposed to his chain of command, then other victims may have been averted. Even if you argue Joe did what he was supposed to do and followed protocol, if no action was clearly taken in a timely way by them, then he should have done something more at that point, with no action meaning reporting it to police pronto. It's the same inaction mentality that the Catholic church has hid behind.

KyleK · Nov 9, 2011

onceanlsufan said: ↑

yeah .. right issy .. .I'm sure Sandusky told Joe all about it. "Hey Joe .. guess what I did last night ..." ... or Joe Ask ... "D'you do this??" .. Sandusky .. "Sure I did Joe .. been doing it for years".

Or better yet ... I bet ol Curly and Schultz called ol Joe in and said .. "hey ... uh look Joe ... we interviewed the kid ... and ... well, we just need to sweep this thing under the rug ..ya know" .... and Joe said . "ok .. sure".

Or even better.... Joe reports it and Mo, Larry and Currly told Joe ... well .. Joe ..if you bring us some real proof, then we'll listen to what ya got to say ... till then, we ain't hearin' it".

Like I said .. Joe did what he was supposed to do. Joe followed protocol.

What's so fricken amazing to me .. it almost seems this whole media frenzie has become more about Joe than about Sundusky, Curly and Schultz.

Yeah yeah .. Sandusky abused some kids, and this Curly and Schultz guy covered it up ... BUT THE BIG NEWS IS .. Paterno didn't report it to the state police.

String him up boys.
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The Grand Jury concluded that the GA told JP what happened (sex w/ the child). JP reported to his supervisor less than that. Fail on JP. He tried to soften the blow for JS.

bayareatiger · Nov 9, 2011

paradiseinc said: ↑

It is definitely a media frenzy and agenda. Joe is just the high profile, visible target. Agreed he was not the perpetrator, but if he notifies authorities, as opposed to his chain of command, then other victims may have been averted. Even if you argue Joe did what he was supposed to do and followed protocol, if no action was clearly taken in a timely way by them, then he should have done something more at that point, with no action meaning reporting it to police pronto. It's the same inaction mentality that the Catholic church has hid behind.
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The ultimate irony here is the fact that Joe Paterno is a devout Catholic.

Cordelia · Nov 9, 2011

Unimaginable end for Jo-Pa. Horrible situation Penn State is in and will be for awhile. But holy smokes, y'all, when did we become a Nation of kid f**ckers? This thing hurts us all and Penn wrote a real good essay about that. My best to him and his family. But my heart and soul go to the kids molested at Penn State.

Pennsylvania · Nov 10, 2011

Paterno out. It had to happen this way.

TigerFan90 · Nov 10, 2011

Pennsylvania said: ↑

When I was born, Joe Paterno had just completed his 2nd year as head coach of the Penn State Nittany Lions. I'm 43. Living in Pennsylvania, about 3 hours east of Happy Valley, Penn State football has been a part of my life since I was old enough to remember.

When my older brother and sister went to college there in the mid to late 70's, weekly trips to State College became routine. For an 8 year old, the Penn State campus was larger than life....and it became a second home.

My first ever game was the Pitt/Penn State game in 1978. I remember it was freezing cold, and PSU won 17-10. I remember crying when they lost 14-7 to Alabama in the Sugar bowl that year. I named my parakeet after their wide receiver. I thought Paterno was a god.

Shockingly, to be defiant, I didn't go to Penn State. But as a young adult, I would never miss a home game. Tailgating in Happy Valley was as normal an activity as waking up in the morning. There really isn't anything like State College on an autumn football Saturday.

My sister married a State college high school and Penn State grad. Her two boys have recently graduated from PSU. For the 30 years they have been married, they have never missed a game, even though they live 4 hours from State College. Last season they had their son schedule his wedding on a Friday, so they could make the trip to Happy Valley on Saturday morning for the season's opener.

I spoke to my sister a little while ago to see how she was doing. I could hear as she spoke of the situation in State College, how truly devastated she and her husband are. I had tears in my eyes as I heard her crackling voice describe how they feel as if there is a death in the family. Their connection to Penn State runs a lot deeper than 7 home games a year in Beaver stadium. Their connection runs deep, as it does with a lot of Penn Staters.

I don't hide that fact that I am LSU fan. I have liked LSU since I was young. But I was brought up around the Penn State family. And I feel an incredible loss too. Loss. Embarrasment. Disappointment. The list is endless.

No one at Penn State is making excuses. No one is showing support or defending what Sandusky did, or the inaction of the people who knew what he did. Penn Stater's are as disgusted as the rest of the Nation. Most Penn State fans are in shock. They are in mourning. The fact that the Penn State name will be a punch line for years to come is very sad.

I can tell by talking on this message board how deep the passion for LSU runs with you all. Imagine if this scandal would have happened in Baton Rouge. Imagine.

There is a death in a lot of families this week.
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You have my sympathies. I can't even imagine what that is like. It sounds absolutely devastating. You do a good job communicating the emotion of it in your post.

Pennsylvania · Nov 10, 2011

Thanks Tigerfan 90. I knew it was coming. In fact, it's better this way. With everything going on, I think it's best that Joe isn't there on Saturday. It certainly would have been a train wreck if they would have allowed him to finish up the season on the road at Ohio State and Wisconsin.

stevescookin · Nov 10, 2011

Pennsylvania said: ↑

When I was born, Joe Paterno had just completed his 2nd year as head coach of the Penn State Nittany Lions. I'm 43. Living in Pennsylvania, about 3 hours east of Happy Valley, Penn State football has been a part of my life since I was old enough to remember.

When my older brother and sister went to college there in the mid to late 70's, weekly trips to State College became routine. For an 8 year old, the Penn State campus was larger than life....and it became a second home.

My first ever game was the Pitt/Penn State game in 1978. I remember it was freezing cold, and PSU won 17-10. I remember crying when they lost 14-7 to Alabama in the Sugar bowl that year. I named my parakeet after their wide receiver. I thought Paterno was a god.

Shockingly, to be defiant, I didn't go to Penn State. But as a young adult, I would never miss a home game. Tailgating in Happy Valley was as normal an activity as waking up in the morning. There really isn't anything like State College on an autumn football Saturday.

My sister married a State college high school and Penn State grad. Her two boys have recently graduated from PSU. For the 30 years they have been married, they have never missed a game, even though they live 4 hours from State College. Last season they had their son schedule his wedding on a Friday, so they could make the trip to Happy Valley on Saturday morning for the season's opener.

I spoke to my sister a little while ago to see how she was doing. I could hear as she spoke of the situation in State College, how truly devastated she and her husband are. I had tears in my eyes as I heard her crackling voice describe how they feel as if there is a death in the family. Their connection to Penn State runs a lot deeper than 7 home games a year in Beaver stadium. Their connection runs deep, as it does with a lot of Penn Staters.

I don't hide that fact that I am LSU fan. I have liked LSU since I was young. But I was brought up around the Penn State family. And I feel an incredible loss too. Loss. Embarrasment. Disappointment. The list is endless.

No one at Penn State is making excuses. No one is showing support or defending what Sandusky did, or the inaction of the people who knew what he did. Penn Stater's are as disgusted as the rest of the Nation. Most Penn State fans are in shock. They are in mourning. The fact that the Penn State name will be a punch line for years to come is very sad.

I can tell by talking on this message board how deep the passion for LSU runs with you all. Imagine if this scandal would have happened in Baton Rouge. Imagine.

There is a death in a lot of families this week.
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Imagine if it happened to one of your kids....Imagine if it happened to you.

Pennsylvania · Nov 10, 2011

stevescookin said: ↑

Imagine if it happened to one of your kids....Imagine if it happened to you.
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Absolutely. I am in no way trying to diminish the disgusting crimes committed, or the painand suffering the victims are enduring.
But this is a sports forum, so I just wanted to express those feelings....

red55 · Nov 10, 2011

We all live in glass houses. There are perverts everywhere and LSU or Oregon or any school could find itself in such trouble. One can only hope that the people around them keep their eyes open and refuse to tolerate it when it surfaces.

LSU has fired a women's track coach and a women's basketball coach for having sex with players and a women's assistant softball coach resigned under mysterious circumstances. They were scandals, but not crimes since university students can be consenting adults. The Penn State incident has taught us that children can be brought to campus by pedophiles and this conduct must also be investigated and taken seriously.