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Just when you thought Goodell couldn't go any further....

Discussion in 'OTHER SPORTS Forum' started by LaSalleAve, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    He is talking about having the Steelers lose a draft pick because Mike Tomlin wasn't far enough back on the sideline during a kick return.

    Are you fucking kidding me? Is there no end to this mother fucker's power trip? He is interfering with the game and seriously needs to be fired, immediately. It's bad enough his punk ass suspended Sean Payton for an entire season for doing NOTHING. Now he is going to start yanking teams draft picks?

  2. TigerBacker70

    TigerBacker70 I'm the Cock of the Walk!

    We lost a draft pick. I don't have a problem with it happening to another team. The only reason I'd say that its unwarranted is that it didn't change the outcome of the game. Had Baltimore lost for any reason, I'd say take a pick. Since they didn't, the fine is enough.
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    injustice is injustice.
  4. TigerBacker70

    TigerBacker70 I'm the Cock of the Walk!

    Nope. There's degrees of injustice.

    But honestly I really don't care. Brown stepped out of bounds all by himself as he ran for the winning TD today costing the Steelers the win. Karma's a bigger bitch than Goodell.
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    no way, but the officials can completely screw the Vikings over and Green Bay last year and crickets.
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Veteran Member Staff Member

    Nanny Roger has just about taken everything out of the game of football and it would not surprise me in the least if in a few years there just isn't any football to have. Seriously, with all the pussification of the game and law suits flying around I could seriously see them just closing the doors. That goes for college as well. I wonder what the fine would be if one of the smart ass coaches like Jim Harbaugh had his team come out wearing flags one day. That would be hilarious and the commish would lose his shit.
  7. ParadiseiNC

    ParadiseiNC don't worry, be happy

    Guys, ya'll really aren't seeing the big picture when it comes to concussions. More and more players are ending up like Muhammad Ali. Early Parkinsons, early Alzheimer's, Lou Gehrigs dz. All of these are various repercussions from repeated head injuries. Since the Ronnie Lott days, head hunting has become too prevalent, and not officiated until now. The problem is not that they are taking steps to remedy it, but that they waited too long, and it's pissing off diehard fans b/c of what has become the norm. It's now described as pussified, instead of trying to preserve the careers and long term quality of life of the actual players. For me, when I hear Earl Campbell talk, hear stories about Tony Dorsett, Junior Seau, Mike Webster, etc, etc, and see the deterioration of Steve Gleason, it makes me second guess whether I even want to watch football anymore and contribute to the popularity. Certainly, my son's not playing it. And, I'm not alone. Nationally, the number of youngsters entering tackle football are down, and the talent is migrating to other less impactful sports. If you think Goodell and the owners are not aware of the big picture implications, both on the long term player injury front and the impact on youths entering football, then you are kidding yourself. I get that he is not a personality many people like, but he and his braintrust are making tough decisions to officiate it more for very good reasons, and ones that have significant financial implications.
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  8. shane0911

    shane0911 Veteran Member Staff Member

    I see it and live with it every day of my life. I know all too well what this stuff looks like, what it does and how it destroys. I'm aware.

    It is over officiated, to the point where it is ridiculous

    No, the problem is that they are trying to over compensate and in the meantime are fundamentally changing the game to the part where the God damned lingerie leage is rougher than the damned NFL. It is a load of shit from power drunk commissioner. If they "cared" about the players and their careers they would not have bent them over the way they did with the lawsuit they settled last year. Its crap. Take the blinders off.

    Look, I learned who Darryl Stingley was around the age of 8. I'm sure every kid that has ever wanted to play football since that day has known who he was and what can happen. It is a violent sport and should remain violent. Blows to the head should be penalized, players should be fined, but they have taken it to a whole new level and it is going to ruin this sport if not kill it all together. The reason is because of this draconian rule by godell they can't go back, we are stuck with it and I suspect it will only get worse. They know the risk, they have all had friends and teammates that have had their careers cut short due to injury, maybe even died. No one is forcing them to play but by george the powers that be sure as hell are telling them they can't play it the way it was meant to be.
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  9. ParadiseiNC

    ParadiseiNC don't worry, be happy

    I hear you, and our opinions are may just vary on this one. I don't think I am the one w/blinders, when there is improved awareness and recognition that repeated head injuries are resulting in long-term, irreversible consequences, and that is not going to be a few players here and there. Darryl Stingley is a good example of neck injury w/paralysis, but he wasn't around long enough to see the repeated head blows that result in repeated brain bruising, otherwise known as concussion, that is resulting in the other stuff. Yes, a lot of these players when they are 16-25 y/o are playing football w/the interest to go as far as they can, and the select few who make it to the NFL are "choosing" to do this, but many don't have other options at that point, and they themselves feel invincible, that it won't happen to them. If you are a professional football player, have financial commitments/expectations, but you are maturing to the point that you are now leery or more aware about the effects of repeated head injuries, what are you going to do, quit? It's an option, but you gotta make ends meet, and sometimes continuing to play is worth the risk in their mind.

    Years ago, nobody wanted to wear seatbelts despite risks of injury while driving. We all slept on the back space above the seat in our parents car, and hung out of the back of the station wagon, etc, and we made out fine. Rules like this are in place to protect those who don't recognize the harms they are exposing themselves to, and who wouldn't be willing or motivated to do something regularly w/o the rule. Right now, the NFL is going through growing pains w/these rules, and sometimes they are over-officiated, as you say, but it will get better, and player safety will be better for it, and it will result in teaching better tackling techniques, etc, and perhaps technology will help out at some point. Eventually, this won't seem as frustrating as it does now. I think it is the right move though, personally.

    As far as the recent NFL/NFLPA settlement goes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Of course, the NFL doesn't want to pay out any more than they are legally bound to, but it doesn't mean that they wouldn't rather prevent the problem to begin with, if possible. I personally think that is sincere, irrespective of whether it is financially or altruistically motivated. Goodell may be power drunk, but he has 32 bosses, and none seem to be dissatisfied with these decisions or the path they are on. I'm sure they have been shown all the numbers and potential costs to them long-term, so they want to clean it up to some level. Goodell is a reflection of them, he's the poster boy, but it's coming from them, and some background lawyers.
  10. shane0911

    shane0911 Veteran Member Staff Member

    Dude I never said they shoulf head hunt. In fact I said it draw a flag and a fine. When a good clean hit draws a flag and a fine that is when there is a problem. That is what we are dealing with now and it sucks for football and for the fans.

    Hell they released a report that said soldiers are 50% more likely to get ALS due to TBI. I would still serve another career knowing that.

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