Let's talk Xs and Os for a minute....

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  1. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    I think it's universal around here that your opinion of LSU and LSU sports is respected. There's a lot to be said for your self-proclaimed title "voice of reason", because that is indeed what you are and have been.

    However, you are wrong on your consistently stated 2 points:

    1) People cannot criticize coaches on their X&Os knowledge because they themselves do not have the coaching experience/abillity.

    2) People cannot expect their teams to win every game when their teams are obviously putting better talent on the floor than the opposition.
     
  2. bigbully

    bigbully Founding Member

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    so with this theory, you can only be good or knowledgable at what you do for a living or what you went to school for? I, sir, laugh at your pretentiousness.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    you can criticize, but you probably do not know more than a coach who is having success in the SEC.

    you can criticize all day, but if the team is winning, it is sort of pointless. i mean, cmon, how hot is LSU right now? they have been pretty awesome the last few weeks.

    you cannot win every game even with much better talent. do you even watch sports?

    the worst occasionally beat the best. roger federer is maybe the greatest tennis player that ever lived, and he will lose this year. the patriots will not go undefeated. the yanks and red sox will each lose at least 50 games to inferior teams.

    point: even if were revealed that john brady had never heard of a pick and roll or a give and go, nobody would care if he was winning, which he is now.
     
  4. bigbully

    bigbully Founding Member

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    But my thoughts were not meant to be specific to Brady...
     
  5. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i will buy that, but sabanfan was specifically talking about brady in his post. an X/O discussion might find a more receptive audience when discussing a terrible or losing team/coach.
     
  6. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    i get your point, but when you make an analogy with another sport its a bit of a stretch. IU went undefeated in 74?, Illinois may do it this year, St Joe's had undefeated reg season last year (not that it meant all that much).

    i like xs and os. id prefer a coach thats good at xs and os, because other things being equal (which, granted, is not always or usually the case) you will win more often. but more than that, if youre coach is good at xs and os you always have hope for the program. when you get a good recruit or two (bass and davis---cj and shaq--stro) the sky is the limit. the final four, and not the sky, was the limit under dale---brady's limit MAY be lower. even if your xs and os coach isnt as good a recruiter, there is usually still the occassional great player from your city/state (bass, davis, tasmin) that youre likely to get anyway. and you also have the cycle that seems to occur giving you senior laden teams every few years that can be better that even well coached inexperienced talent.
     
  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    #1: Fair enough, but see martin's caveat:

    #2: Wrong, wrong, wrong.
     
  8. Dirt Dog

    Dirt Dog Founding Member

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    Just for the record...

    Indiana had two an undefeated regular seasons in 1975 (29-0) and 1976 (27-0), and 1976 was their perfect overall season (32-0).
     
  9. USChater

    USChater Founding Member

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    U sure think u know everything
     
  10. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    he's not the one claiming to know more than a top 25 D1 coach.
     

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