Little Known Facts

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  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    now its settled.
     
  2. Tiger Exile

    Tiger Exile Long time lurker

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    Exactly - Elizabeth Taylor in her prime! I was right all along.
     
  3. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    In all fairness if you want others to believe in your lesser known and lesser accepted theory, you should probably give some back ground and arguments instead of just saying everyone else is wrong and history isn't always right. We know that. Tell these guys what they're missing. As for me, I've never thought or cared about Cleopatras nationality, race, ethinicity etc. I'm just curious as to your side of the argument.
     
  4. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    You are partially right. She was a descendent of Ptolemy one of Alexander the Greats generals who took Egypt after Alexander's death. Ptolemy and Alexander were Macedonian which shared heritage and language with the Greeks but weren't considered fully Greek by Athens, Corinth and greater Greece.
    Cleopatra also had Armenian blood from her grandfather Mithradates (?SP) who was a king. She did speak greek but considered herself Egyptian including following the ancient Egyptian religion.
     
  5. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    IMO, she cannot be definitively identified via race/ethnic origin. Based on actual available evidence, it's likely that she was at least partially of Egyptian, possibly Nubian, background. She clearly had a mix of Grecian and African blood. It is known that on her paternal side, there was a concubine involved but the Ptolemic "family" often incestuously reproduced in an effort to maintain family leadership and exclude outsiders. Her spoken language has nothing to do with racial identification. Even geographic locations are not necessarily significant in determining race. No physical evidence exists and no eyewitnesses gave accounts. Speculation is as reliable as her genetic makeup.....about 50%.

    Would she be considered "black" today? Yes, I think she would.
     
  6. kcal

    kcal Founding Member

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    isn't greek about being in the "end"?
     
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  7. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Haha. Good catch
     
  8. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    lol in all fairness? but im the only one that you require evidence from.
    I dont want anyone to believe what I believe.
    we can have a difference of opinion.

    but i didnt see anyone post any evidence to counter my argument.

    also, when did I say everyone else was wrong about history?
     
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  9. wjray

    wjray .-.. ..- -.- .

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    @Winston1 I tell the tale that I heard told
    Mithradates he died old

    A couple remembered lines from a long forgotten poem.
     
  10. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Its about whether or not you Walk Like an Egyptian
     

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