Little Known Facts

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  1. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Come on mm. Just having some fun man but really, what is your angle? Why is it so important to you? It cannot be just that history gets it "right" which by the way they already have. There has to be more to it because who really gives a damn about her anyway?
     
  2. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    you brought it up and asking me who gives a damn.
    There is not anymore too it, than I believe conventional history is wrong.
    half the south believes Jesus was this nordic fella born in Sweden...... joking of course
    but indoctrination of revisionist history is a real thing in this world.
     
  3. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    you were taught about George Washington and cherry tree or ben franklin and a kite.
    lol none of that happened.
    or that Einstein flunked math.
     
  5. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    All those parts that you never said before.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Not quite, the Ptolmaic dynasty is well-documented with a ton of evidence for Greek heritage. And none for African heritage other than speculation. You are free to speculate of course, but the topic is little known facts and we are nitpicking the hell of of them. Some facts aren't facts at all. But other are very much so. I refer you to my signature quote.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Ahhh, more nitpicking candidates.

    1. George Washington could not have thrown a silver dollar across the Potomac. Where he lived, the Potomac is far too wide for anyone to have done so. But the cherry tree tale is possible. There is no more evidence that it is true than there is that it is false, but it is feasible.

    2. Ben Franklin actually did do the kite experiment. He thought that it proved that lightning was electricity, but that had already been proven, he was just not aware of it.
     
  8. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Here is some convoluted logic from a white man. The role Cleopatra was played by Elizabeth Taylor. I once met a black woman named Elizabeth Taylor. Therefore Cleopatra was black and Elizabeth Taylor wore makeup in the movie to make here appear to be white. If you think this is not possible look up an old Saturday Night Live skit where Eddie Murphy disguises himself as a white man.

    All I could find of it on YouTube was these 4 seconds



    But I did find this clip where Eddie sings "Kill the White People"


     
  9. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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  10. LSUsupaFan

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    You are being incredibly dense over something so stupid.

    It was Ptomaic practice for the Ptolmaic King to marry a sister. The lineage of the first 6 Ptolmaic kings are all well documented. They were full blooded Macedonians, as were there wives. There is no room for conjecture.

    Cleopatra's grandfather's wife is of unknown lineage. It is only known she came from a high ranking segment of society. That would speak to her being either 1) Macedonian or 2) Egyptian religious elite, who were mostly Greek during the Ptolmaic dynasty.

    Cleopatra's father had 5 wives who were all either Macedonian or of unknown lineage, a few may have been from the same Egyptian religious class that her grandmother may have been from. So Cleopatra's mother may have been from the Egyption religous class, which given the time of her birth was probably a Greek.

    There is no historical evidence that her mothe was black African or that she even could have been. None. There is only very unprobable conjecture.

    But to answer your question.. no there is no evidence that her mother was or grand mother were not a black african women. However, there is also no evidence her mother and grandmother were not Wookies from the planet Kashyyk. What evidence do you have that Cleopatra's mom wasn't a Wookie. You have none. Cleopatra's mom was a wookie. You can't prove me wrong.
     
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